because I've got EA's F1 2002. Or there another game of the same name by
another publisher ?
I'm pretty sure GTR2002 is for EA F1 2002 but I don't really want to
download the huuuge GTR2002 mod for nothing.
thnaks
GTR2002 confirmed as a mod for EA's F1 2002
Dunk checked that GTR2002 required EA's F1 2002, and posters confirmed it was better than the original game. They praised the Brands Hatch track textures as the most realistic yet and credited ISI's open engine. Its poor netcode was noted.
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:55:13 -0000, "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>because I've got EA's F1 2002. Or there another game of the same name by
>another publisher ?
>I'm pretty sure GTR2002 is for EA F1 2002 but I don't really want to
>download the huuuge GTR2002 mod for nothing.
>
>thnaks
There is only one GTR2002 or GT Racing 2002. I haven't heard of any
other. Make sure the filesize is 265MB (278,356,548 bytes).
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Yes, it is :-)
It is better than the original too!
You really should download it.
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> because I've got EA's F1 2002. Or there another game of the same name by > another publisher ? > I'm pretty sure GTR2002 is for EA F1 2002 but I don't really want to > download the huuuge GTR2002 mod for nothing. > > thnaks > >OK, thanks.
Better than the original what ?
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| Yes, it is :-) | | It is better than the original too! | You really should download it. | | /Carl | | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:[email hidden]... | > because I've got EA's F1 2002. Or there another game of the same nameQuoted text (9 lines)
| > another publisher ? | > I'm pretty sure GTR2002 is for EA F1 2002 but I don't really want to | > download the huuuge GTR2002 mod for nothing. | > | > thnaks | > | > | |"cc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Thanks but that's not what I asked. I wanted to know if GTR2002 was a mod
for *EA SPORTS* F1 2002
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| On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:55:13 -0000, "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote: | | >because I've got EA's F1 2002. Or there another game of the same name by | >another publisher ? | >I'm pretty sure GTR2002 is for EA F1 2002 but I don't really want to | >download the huuuge GTR2002 mod for nothing. | > | >thnaks | | There is only one GTR2002 or GT Racing 2002. I haven't heard of any | other. Make sure the filesize is 265MB (278,356,548 bytes).
"Dunk"
> OK, thanks.
>
> Better than the original what ?
the GTR mod is better than the F1 2002 sim it is based upon.
dave henrie
"Dunk"
the GTR mod is better than the F1 2002 sim it is based upon.
dave henrie
OIC
Thanks
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| | "Dunk" | > OK, thanks. | > | > Better than the original what ? | | the GTR mod is better than the F1 2002 sim it is based upon. | dave henrie | |On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 20:44:47 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]>
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> the GTR mod is better than the F1 2002 sim it is based upon.
It sure is. I always assumed the game engine was the reason the F1
cars were modelled so poorly, but seeing what can be done by people
who are attentive to detail and have some real race engineering
experience has me very impressed.
I'm already thinking about uninstalling N2002 now since I may not play
it again. If Doug does the physics for the F1 77 mod and they include
enough historic tracks, I may end up uninstalling GPL as well.
Jason
But it still has poor net code correct so it doesn't solve all the issues.
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> On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 20:44:47 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > the GTR mod is better than the F1 2002 sim it is based upon. > > It sure is. I always assumed the game engine was the reason the F1 > cars were modelled so poorly, but seeing what can be done by people > who are attentive to detail and have some real race engineering > experience has me very impressed. > > I'm already thinking about uninstalling N2002 now since I may not play > it again. If Doug does the physics for the F1 77 mod and they include > enough historic tracks, I may end up uninstalling GPL as well. > > Jason"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> the GTR mod is better than the F1 2002 sim it is based upon.
> dave henrie
It had better be :) I just went out and bought F1 2002 (CAN$30, not bad...)
for the sole puropse of use with this mod. I've given up on F1 sims after
F12K1... always disappointing.
EA's programmers must be having a sob and group hug about now... when a
bunch of "amateurs" can improve on what they spent months working on.
Hah!
Wife's out tonight so I'll reserve judgement on this add-on when I have time
to try it.
Dale.
>"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote
> the GTR mod is better than the F1 2002 sim it is based upon.
> dave henrie
The tracks, the tracks!! Oh the humanity!! :) :(
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> The tracks, the tracks!! Oh the humanity!! :) :(
I've only loaded up Brands Hatch so far. Would I be going too far if I were
to say it has the best track textures ever in a sim?
Sacrilege! Stone the blasphemer!!!
;o)
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> If Doug does the physics for the F1 77 mod and they include
> enough historic tracks, I may end up uninstalling GPL as well.
>
> Jason
Actually Frank, it comes with some new tracks. I think even you might
like it. ;o)
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> > > The tracks, the tracks!! Oh the humanity!! :) :( > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > >I was on Brands tonight....and without a shadow of a doubt it is the most
relalistic looking sim ever.
My three mates,and two parents were watching and kept saying it looks
real....and the parents are not computer people.
I had everything on FULL and was running 1280 x 960 x 32bit.
XP2100+ @ XP2380
9700 Pro
512 DDR
Win XP
Awesome mod...just awesome.
AD
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> Actually Frank, it comes with some new tracks. I think even you might > like it. ;o) > > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:6RSG9.2529$[email hidden]... > > > > > > The tracks, the tracks!! Oh the humanity!! :) :( > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ > > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > > > >
"Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> If Doug does the physics for the F1 77 mod and they include
> enough historic tracks, I may end up uninstalling GPL as well.
UNINSTALL GPL??? KILL THE HERETIC!!! KILL HIM NOW BEFORE HE SPREADS HIS EVIL
THOUGHTS TO THE REST OF THE GROUP !!!! ;-)
Should have scrolled down and read your reply before I did. lol
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> Sacrilege! Stone the blasphemer!!! > > ;o) > > "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > If Doug does the physics for the F1 77 mod and they include > > enough historic tracks, I may end up uninstalling GPL as well. > > > > Jason >The programming of the mod probably has a lot to do with it looking so real
but your system specs are probably really helping too. ;-)
(OH Santa please bring me a 9700 this year !!!)
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> I was on Brands tonight....and without a shadow of a doubt it is the most > relalistic looking sim ever. > > My three mates,and two parents were watching and kept saying it looks > real....and the parents are not computer people. > > I had everything on FULL and was running 1280 x 960 x 32bit. > > XP2100+ @ XP2380 > 9700 Pro > 512 DDR > Win XP > > Awesome mod...just awesome. > > > AD > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ash1b1$rbjh5$[email hidden]... > > Actually Frank, it comes with some new tracks. I think even you might > > like it. ;o) > > > > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:6RSG9.2529$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > The tracks, the tracks!! Oh the humanity!! :) :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ > > > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > > > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > > > > > > > > >"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > The tracks, the tracks!! Oh the humanity!! :) :(
>
> I've only loaded up Brands Hatch so far. Would I be going too far if I were
> to say it has the best track textures ever in a sim?
INCREDIBLE Track!!!
On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 02:56:47 GMT, "Doug Hook" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>UNINSTALL GPL??? KILL THE HERETIC!!! KILL HIM NOW BEFORE HE SPREADS HIS EVIL
>THOUGHTS TO THE REST OF THE GROUP !!!! ;-)
Whoa there, unless a new '67 sim comes out I wouldn't count on it. =)
Jason
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:25:26 -0500, "ymenard"
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>The tracks, the tracks!! Oh the humanity!! :) :(
I deleted all of the tracks that weren't used in the championship for
the GT mod (well, and the rest of the F1 content...). That leaves 7
stunning tracks that are pretty accurately modelled, and 3 of the
lesser flawed original tracks. Silverstone and Spa aren't too bad,
and Magny Cours is ok except for the second set of esses (which, for
some reason, are completely flat) and the incredibly odd pit
entrance/last turn.
Just did some laps at Spa in the Lister. Eau Rouge flat-out is
properly scary and a very nice threading the needle moment, even with
the neutral/tight default setup. Of course, if you set up the car so
it actually turns everywhere else on the track, you can kiss the
backend goodbye coming over the hill. =)
Jason
>"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Actually Frank, it comes with some new tracks. I think even you might
> like it. ;o)
Oh! o_O
<starts downloading it>
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>"Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote
> I deleted all of the tracks that weren't used in the championship for
> the GT mod (well, and the rest of the F1 content...). That leaves 7
> stunning tracks that are pretty accurately modelled, and 3 of the
> lesser flawed original tracks. Silverstone and Spa aren't too bad,
Ack. Silverstone is very bad. It's not "I won't race there it's so bad
like the A1-Ring" bad, but ISI should really put some efforts. How hard can
it be? :( Spa is average, yeah. It's just that the track builders
give themselves too much freedom, and start putting stuff or changing stuff
to their free willing. They see an empty spot, and try to "fill it" so that
it doesn't look empty even if it's really empty in real life (well empty as
in, a forest or an elevation that looks into the sky for the most part).
They change the layout because they think it will fit the filling space they
aren't sure of.
ISI seriously only has the track to do and the multi for the most part.
It's pretty much put down now. We can edit everything else (including the
physics).
But there is ABSOLUTELY no connection between them and us. No communication
whatsoever :(
> and Magny Cours is ok except for the second set of esses (which, for
> some reason, are completely flat) and the incredibly odd pit
> entrance/last turn.
The track camber is really off, but that's a problem with about every sim
that tries to model Magny-Cours. Even F1RC.
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"Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> The programming of the mod probably has a lot to do with it looking so
real
> but your system specs are probably really helping too. ;-)
>
> (OH Santa please bring me a 9700 this year !!!)
>
> "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:ash3a1$k8o$[email hidden]...
> > I was on Brands tonight....and without a shadow of a doubt it is the
most
> > relalistic looking sim ever.
> >
> > My three mates,and two parents were watching and kept saying it looks
> > real....and the parents are not computer people.
> >
> > I had everything on FULL and was running 1280 x 960 x 32bit.
> >
> > XP2100+ @ XP2380
> > 9700 Pro
> > 512 DDR
> > Win XP
> >
> > Awesome mod...just awesome.
> >
> >
> > AD
> > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:ash1b1$rbjh5$[email hidden]...
> > > Actually Frank, it comes with some new tracks. I think even you might
> > > like it. ;o)
> > >
> > > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > > news:6RSG9.2529$[email hidden]...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The tracks, the tracks!! Oh the humanity!! :) :(
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard>
> > > > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
> > > > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> > > > Corporation - helping America into the New World...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Well it's from SBK2001 right?
SBK2001 is one of the best looking games i've seen.
/Carl
"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > The tracks, the tracks!! Oh the humanity!! :) :(
>
> I've only loaded up Brands Hatch so far. Would I be going too far if Iwere
> to say it has the best track textures ever in a sim?
>
>
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 13:43:37 -0800, "Dale Green"
<[email hidden]> wrote something like this:
>EA's programmers must be having a sob and group hug about now... when a
>bunch of "amateurs" can improve on what they spent months working on.
LOL... or maybe they are having a party as the original game's sales
are going up again ;-)
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"Dale Green" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> EA's programmers must be having a sob and group hug about now... when a
> bunch of "amateurs" can improve on what they spent months working on.
>
I don't think so. I think they are proud that their physics engine are
capable of doing this, and that the system is open and can be edited. EA did
share technical information about the new formats with simbin even before F1
2002 was released. And the F1 cars might not be as good as we wish because
of limited time, or the ones that makes decisions at EA might have been
thinking that F1 2002 would not sell more if the car modeling was refined,
so why spend more man-hours? That doesn't mean that the individual
programmer should feel ashamed, they delivered a fine product. The physics
model is probably good because the programmers take pride in their work, and
because their bosses don't have full insight into what exactly they are
doing and what's necessary (for good sales) and not, early in the process.
:)
I think it's outstanding that they have made such a fine sim.
After all the market is kids, grandparents (gift for kids), a few grown up's
that drive a few laps twice a year, and a tiny group of serious simracers.
But netcode would be fine.....
Jone.
No ADSL - what do I do??????? (They haven't fitted out my exchange
yet, it's not that I haven't bought ADSL!)
I'm sure as hell not tieing the phone line up for a day or so to
d'load - is anyone offering a CD burn of the mod to ship in the UK?
I'll pay........
Matt
Ditto on this one; GTR2002 is good because the game engine allows it to be,
and you have ISI to thank for that. Commercial developers and publishers
have a lot more on the line than groups like SBDT, and have a lot broader
market to serve. All you really need to do is compare NT2003 to GTR2002 to
see the result. Kudo's to ISI as well as SBDT.
SB
"Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I don't think so. I think they are proud that their physics engine are
> capable of doing this, and that the system is open and can be edited. EAdid
> share technical information about the new formats with simbin even beforeF1
> 2002 was released. And the F1 cars might not be as good as we wish because
> of limited time, or the ones that makes decisions at EA might have been
> thinking that F1 2002 would not sell more if the car modeling was refined,
> so why spend more man-hours? That doesn't mean that the individual
> programmer should feel ashamed, they delivered a fine product. The physics
> model is probably good because the programmers take pride in their work,and
> because their bosses don't have full insight into what exactly they are
> doing and what's necessary (for good sales) and not, early in the process.
> :)
> I think it's outstanding that they have made such a fine sim.
> After all the market is kids, grandparents (gift for kids), a few grownup's
> that drive a few laps twice a year, and a tiny group of serious simracers.
> But netcode would be fine.....
>
> Jone.
>
>
Matt...where are you in UK..?
AD
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> No ADSL - what do I do??????? (They haven't fitted out my exchange > yet, it's not that I haven't bought ADSL!) > > I'm sure as hell not tieing the phone line up for a day or so to > d'load - is anyone offering a CD burn of the mod to ship in the UK? > > I'll pay........ > > MattOn Mon, 02 Dec 2002 21:04:42 GMT, [email hidden] (Jason Moyer) wrote:
Heresy!
;-)
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>On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 20:44:47 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >> the GTR mod is better than the F1 2002 sim it is based upon. > >It sure is. I always assumed the game engine was the reason the F1 >cars were modelled so poorly, but seeing what can be done by people >who are attentive to detail and have some real race engineering >experience has me very impressed. > >I'm already thinking about uninstalling N2002 now since I may not play >it again. If Doug does the physics for the F1 77 mod and they include >enough historic tracks, I may end up uninstalling GPL as well. > >Jason"Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<asihlp$j7q$[email hidden]>...
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