GTR 2002 - Wow!

Only had the time for a few laps in GTR 2002 tonight, but already I am very impressed. I tried the NGT class 996 GT3 at Brands Hatch, and then the GT class 996 Turbo at Spa. I was really impressed with the feel. Feels even better than FIA V3 did. Amazing thing is it also felt much more controllable than V3 did. I had a few spins at Brands but mostly due to lack of familiarity with the course. Spa felt great. You can definitely balance the cars on the throttle through the turns using Arnao's setups. I think the most significant improvement since V3 though is just the fact that there are some real sports car tracks now, i.e. fewer chicanes and low speed crap. I hated driving the FIA cars on the F1 tracks. Anyway I am looking forward to having the time to get a little deeper into it. Definitely worth the 12 hr. download!

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aseml5$q2c2c$[email hidden]... > Only had the time for a few laps in GTR 2002 tonight, but already I am > very impressed. I tried the NGT class 996 GT3 at Brands Hatch, and then > the GT class 996 Turbo at Spa. I'm digging the Ferrari 360 Modena. It's fast but not so hard to handle - and nice looking! - Dave

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> "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aseml5$q2c2c$[email hidden]... > > Only had the time for a few laps in GTR 2002 tonight, but already I am > > very impressed. I tried the NGT class 996 GT3 at Brands Hatch, and then > > the GT class 996 Turbo at Spa. > > I'm digging the Ferrari 360 Modena. It's fast but not so hard to handle -

and > nice looking! > > - Dave > >I love the way the Porsche gt2 sounds, but the Lamborghini kicks ass!

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aseml5$q2c2c$[email hidden]...

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> Only had the time for a few laps in GTR 2002 tonight, but already I am > very impressed. I tried the NGT class 996 GT3 at Brands Hatch, and then > the GT class 996 Turbo at Spa. I was really impressed with the feel. > Feels even better than FIA V3 did. Amazing thing is it also felt much > more controllable than V3 did. I had a few spins at Brands but mostly > due to lack of familiarity with the course. Spa felt great. You can > definitely balance the cars on the throttle through the turns using > Arnao's setups. I think the most significant improvement since V3 > though is just the fact that there are some real sports car tracks now, > i.e. fewer chicanes and low speed crap. I hated driving the FIA cars on > the F1 tracks. Anyway I am looking forward to having the time to get a > little deeper into it. Definitely worth the 12 hr. download! >

I love the 996 Turbo. But then I love it in real life.... Just remember to short-shift until the car is settled out of the turns or the turbo will kick you all over the place ;-). The Lambo seems to me to be the easiest to drive, but I haven't tried the ugly cars yet...

Turbo lag = traction control. Seriously, I found it fairly easy to time it so that the power came up on the exit and not before. Whereas with most of the other GT cars so far I am still having a bit of a problem with the low speed turns. I think I will be sticking with the Porsche for now. ;o) "Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:asfqar$qhfnm$[email hidden]... > > I love the 996 Turbo. But then I love it in real life.... Justremember to > short-shift until the car is settled out of the turns or the turbowill kick > you all over the place ;-). > > The Lambo seems to me to be the easiest to drive, but I haven't triedthe > ugly cars yet...

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> Only had the time for a few laps in GTR 2002 tonight, but already I am > very impressed. I tried the NGT class 996 GT3 at Brands Hatch, and then > the GT class 996 Turbo at Spa. I was really impressed with the feel. > Feels even better than FIA V3 did. Amazing thing is it also felt much > more controllable than V3 did. I had a few spins at Brands but mostly > due to lack of familiarity with the course. Spa felt great. You can > definitely balance the cars on the throttle through the turns using > Arnao's setups. I think the most significant improvement since V3 > though is just the fact that there are some real sports car tracks now, > i.e. fewer chicanes and low speed crap. I hated driving the FIA cars on > the F1 tracks. Anyway I am looking forward to having the time to get a > little deeper into it. Definitely worth the 12 hr. download!

I'm finding Doug's setups to be a bit understeery. Maybe it's because of the huge rear wings on these 2002 cars. Maybe he made them that way so the noobs weren't put off. In any case, I'm going to be doing plenty of tinkering with setups in this mod. It's certainly worthy of the effort.

Oddly, I've found the Lambo the easiest to drive. And man does that puppy scream down the straights! -Larry "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ashaj4$ri59v$[email hidden]...

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> Turbo lag = traction control. Seriously, I found it fairly easy to time > it so that the power came up on the exit and not before. Whereas with > most of the other GT cars so far I am still having a bit of a problem > with the low speed turns. I think I will be sticking with the Porsche > for now. ;o) > > "Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:asfqar$qhfnm$[email hidden]... > > > > I love the 996 Turbo. But then I love it in real life.... Just > remember to > > short-shift until the car is settled out of the turns or the turbo > will kick > > you all over the place ;-). > > > > The Lambo seems to me to be the easiest to drive, but I haven't tried > the > > ugly cars yet... >

I haven't tried the Lambo yet. In the GT cars I tried the Porsche, the 550, the Viper, and the Marcos, and in that group the Porsche seemed like the easiest to drive. Hmm, guess I will have to spend an hour or five and try the Lambo tonight. ;o) "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:WN6H9.67286$[email hidden]... > Oddly, I've found the Lambo the easiest to drive. > > And man does that puppy scream down the straights! > > -Larry >

Depending on the car a little bit of understeer is not a bad thing. The idea is to balance the throttle against it on the turn exit. I'm sure you have seen videos of Porsche Turbos being driven around a corner on power oversteer. That's what I am talking about, but you need to start with a little understeer if you want to really be able to lay into the power oversteer in a controllable manner. You cannot balance it all out with dampers because the corner exit phase lasts too long. They even do this in F1 - if you can get a good clip of an F1 car powering out of a slow corner you will usually be able to tell visually that there is almost no weight on the inside front wheel. That's due to a very high roll couple, which means a car that will be very tight if you are not aggressive enough on the throttle. This is also common in NASCAR. Anyway I am pretty sure that is what Doug is trying to achieve, all of his setups that I have tried seem to be biased towards very aggressive throttle usage. "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ashjtf$rf4sm$[email hidden]... > > I'm finding Doug's setups to be a bit understeery. Maybe it's becauseof > the huge rear wings on these 2002 cars. Maybe he made them that wayso the > noobs weren't put off. In any case, I'm going to be doing plenty of > tinkering with setups in this mod. It's certainly worthy of theeffort. > >

"Damien Smith" I'm going to be doing plenty of > tinkering with setups in this mod. It's certainly worthy of the effort. > Feel free to enlighten us on the results of your research. dave henrie >