Rallisport challenge... strange effect when braking

Has anyone noticed that when you hit the brakes the cars (any one of them) just go straight? Is it just me or is this phys model of this game confgured to understeer horribly whenever you brake? Is that realistic? I'm fine with it if it is... If it isn't (realistic) did anyone find out if it's possible to tweak some config file or something to change the balance of breaking/handling or somethin? thanx

> Is it just me or is this phys model of this game confgured to understeer > horribly whenever you brake? Is that realistic? I'm fine with it if itis... > > If it isn't (realistic) did anyone find out if it's possible to tweak some > config file or something to change the balance of breaking/handling or > somethin? I'm not sure if it's realistic, but I have the same problem in Rally Trophy. IIRC, RSC has a brake bias setting. Does altering that make any difference?

The brakes in Rally Trophy are terribly sensative. You really have to feather the brakes. If you apply about 20%, you lock up all 4 wheels and you're just going to slide straight. So you have to do your braking within that 20% it seems. Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:arhmjv$iolrm$[email hidden]... > > Is it just me or is this phys model of this game confgured to understeer > > horribly whenever you brake? Is that realistic? I'm fine with it if it > is... > > > > If it isn't (realistic) did anyone find out if it's possible to tweaksome > > config file or something to change the balance of breaking/handling or > > somethin? > > I'm not sure if it's realistic, but I have the same problem in RallyTrophy. > IIRC, RSC has a brake bias setting. Does altering that make anydifference? > >

You brought up good points: 1 - I am using a joystick... and I am using a button to brake. So I am probably applying 100% every time I hit the brakes. No wonder I am sliding ... doh. Apparently in this game braking is modeled to be a lot more ... "effective" than in Hot Pursuit 2 :-P 2 - I didn't play with brake bias. I am always wary when I have to play with the car settings. It just so happens that every time I tweak the car settings in a racing game, my cars become un-drivable. :) But I'll give that a try. Maybe tightening up the rear breaks (so that I have more braking power in the back wheels and less braking on the front wheels) should give me more rear-swing and more oversteering (which usually I can handle a lot better than understeering). Thanks for the reply guys... :) "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7e1D9.19972$[email hidden]...

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> The brakes in Rally Trophy are terribly sensative. You really have to > feather the brakes. If you apply about 20%, you lock up all 4 wheels and > you're just going to slide straight. So you have to do your braking within > that 20% it seems. > > Mike > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:arhmjv$iolrm$[email hidden]... > > > Is it just me or is this phys model of this game confgured to

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> > > horribly whenever you brake? Is that realistic? I'm fine with it if it > > is... > > > > > > If it isn't (realistic) did anyone find out if it's possible to tweak > some > > > config file or something to change the balance of breaking/handling or > > > somethin? > > > > I'm not sure if it's realistic, but I have the same problem in Rally > Trophy. > > IIRC, RSC has a brake bias setting. Does altering that make any > difference? > > > > > >

FWIW in the Xbox version moving the brake bias rearward made the cars nearly undrivable. If you brake lightly they are still very controllable. If OTOH you are trying to get the car sideways use the handbrake instead. Seems like we have had a number of rally drivers in here comment that the fast way to slow down on dirt is to get the car sideways, and that seems to work in this game. Get it sideways by doing a scando or using the handbrake, then apply moderate throttle pressure and point the front wheels where you want to go. Most of the cars balance very well once you get the feel for it. "Marco Rispoli" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bYYC9.551$[email hidden]... > Has anyone noticed that when you hit the brakes the cars (any one ofthem) > just go straight? > > Is it just me or is this phys model of this game confgured toundersteer > horribly whenever you brake? Is that realistic? I'm fine with it if itis... > > If it isn't (realistic) did anyone find out if it's possible to tweaksome > config file or something to change the balance of breaking/handling or > somethin? > > thanx > >

actually on the pc it might work different. I just changed the break balance and my performance increased considerably. Before I couldn't get past the first series of races in career. After changin the break balance I pretty much blasted past all opponents. Maybe on the Xbox physiscs work different... "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:arjvv3$ikg9k$[email hidden]...

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> FWIW in the Xbox version moving the brake bias rearward made the cars > nearly undrivable. If you brake lightly they are still very > controllable. If OTOH you are trying to get the car sideways use the > handbrake instead. Seems like we have had a number of rally drivers in > here comment that the fast way to slow down on dirt is to get the car > sideways, and that seems to work in this game. Get it sideways by doing > a scando or using the handbrake, then apply moderate throttle pressure > and point the front wheels where you want to go. Most of the cars > balance very well once you get the feel for it. > > > "Marco Rispoli" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bYYC9.551$[email hidden]... > > Has anyone noticed that when you hit the brakes the cars (any one of > them) > > just go straight? > > > > Is it just me or is this phys model of this game confgured to > understeer > > horribly whenever you brake? Is that realistic? I'm fine with it if it > is... > > > > If it isn't (realistic) did anyone find out if it's possible to tweak > some > > config file or something to change the balance of breaking/handling or > > somethin? > > > > thanx > > > > >

I doubt that the physics are different. Could just be having the brake bias rearward made the car twitchy enough to be difficult to control with the Xbox gamepad, but that with a wheel it is still tolerable. Also I tried it on a part gravel, part tarmac rallycross course, it may have a more favorable effect on other surfaces. "Marco Rispoli" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4nuD9.16869$[email hidden]... > actually on the pc it might work different. > > I just changed the break balance and my performance increasedconsiderably.

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> > Before I couldn't get past the first series of races in career. After > changin the break balance I pretty much blasted past all opponents. > > Maybe on the Xbox physiscs work different... > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:arjvv3$ikg9k$[email hidden]... > > FWIW in the Xbox version moving the brake bias rearward made the

cars > > nearly undrivable. If you brake lightly they are still very > > controllable. If OTOH you are trying to get the car sideways usethe > > handbrake instead. Seems like we have had a number of rally driversin > > here comment that the fast way to slow down on dirt is to get thecar > > sideways, and that seems to work in this game. Get it sideways bydoing > > a scando or using the handbrake, then apply moderate throttlepressure

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> > and point the front wheels where you want to go. Most of the cars > > balance very well once you get the feel for it. > > > > > > "Marco Rispoli" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:bYYC9.551$[email hidden]... > > > Has anyone noticed that when you hit the brakes the cars (any one

of > > them) > > > just go straight? > > > > > > Is it just me or is this phys model of this game confgured to > > understeer > > > horribly whenever you brake? Is that realistic? I'm fine with itif it > > is... > > > > > > If it isn't (realistic) did anyone find out if it's possible totweak > > some > > > config file or something to change the balance ofbreaking/handling or

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