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64 posts by 38 people · 19 Nov 2002 02:02 UTC - 31 Dec 2002 01:56 UTC

Notable threadRegulars dig up their first r.a.s. posts

ymenard invited regulars to find their first rec.autos.simulators post via Google Groups. Dozens responded with posts dating back as far as 1993-1995 about IndyCar Racing, NASCAR 1, F1GP, Need for Speed and the GPL Monza demo. Old names such as Trevor Kellaway and Doug Reichley prompted nostalgic memories.

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ymenard 19 Nov 2002 02:02 UTC#89625

Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O =========================================== EVERYBODY READ THIS IMPORTANT, I think Sierra is controling this Newsgroup. She deletes Post that she does not want. Like here's an exemple. IN Netscape 3.0 I can not find any message about the Indianapolistrack, or the Nascar2sucks. Hope it's not real because ther's a problem here!!! The Blue ribbon speech could make a good paper for this. Anyway who's in charge ofd this Newsgroup???. Good races at the Brickyard, //// O O Go RubensB., go J.Gordon, go J.Villeneuve, go G.Moore!! < And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is --- from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Franï¿½ois Mï¿½nard "Wasupe LeGrand" Nicolas Mï¿½nard "Nien Numb" May the force be with you, always!! Tu ne peut sous-estimer le pouvoir du cï¿½tï¿½ obscur!! (for you French people) Excuse me for my poor English (I'm French speaking) =============================================== -- -- Franï¿½ois Mï¿½nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Uncle Fester 19 Nov 2002 03:04 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89632

ymenard wrote: > Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post > in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O LOL, talk about memories. My first in RAS was November of '97. I was helping a guy who couldn't get his carset to load in N1. (!!) =============================================================================== From: Chuck Kandler ([email hidden]) Subject: Re: Nascar 1 & loading car sets Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Date: 1997/11/11 [email hidden] wrote: > > When I bought my Matrox Millennium card (4meg) it came bundled with some > software, one of which is Nascar 1. When I start it it says its version 1.21 I > think. Anyway, about a month ago I decided to give it a try and now I'm hooked. > Even went out and bought the T2 steering wheel. Surfing the net I came across > some of the great car sets out there, for example WC97.ZIP among others. The > problem I'm having is once I load a car set (doesn't matter which one) and go to > race, the car set is loaded but I can't get into the garage and load my car > setups or tweak anything. The message I get is something like "Can't load the > garage." I have search Deja News, went to several Nascar site, read at ton of > FAQ's and came up empty. I would appreciate any suggestions. I really don't > want to be stuck racing with those lame cars that come with the game. > > Thanks > > Jeff Stone > Cincinnati Team OS/2 Heres what ya need to do. Visit the pits. Http://www.theuspits.com/ Go to the Workshop, go to the archives, click Nascar1 and scroll down until you see Jed's Nascar car set converter. You probably got the european version like I did, and the US car sets won't load into the garage until you convert them. Hope this helps. Chuck Kandler Budget Racing ===================================================================== Seems like a million years ago! :-) -- Fester There is a better way, for the enlightened. http://www.racun.tk/

Sideshow Bob 19 Nov 2002 03:10 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89633

Earliest one I can find... I changed accounts quite often. As an aside, my first USENET post was Oct 5, 1995 (according to Google). July 02, 1999 >>>I assume we're talking GTQ AI cars here... Sardian uesd to piss me off too. I went away and practised at Mosport, geared my 911 kinda low, took most of the wing off and one day magically I was faster than the AI cars. Went back to Sardian, qualified P1 and won by 40 sec (and I spun three times during the race) on the short race. For me, the key to Sardian is the left sweeper/right hairpin combination near the end of the lap. The AI cars are terrible through there. Keep it floored in third for the left, shift to second, nail the brakes (buy ABS!), sharp and early right turn then floor it. I was making up a few seconds per lap on these corners. This was on Medium AI difficulty. Dale. >>>

jason moyer 19 Nov 2002 03:31 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89635

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 21:02:24 -0500, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post >in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O Mine was 97-ish I think and a rant about people getting in an uproar about banning cigarette advertising in motorsports. I think the only response was "uh, wrong newsgroup". I'm not searching for it because it's embarassing. Jason

jason moyer 19 Nov 2002 03:39 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89638

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 21:02:24 -0500, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post >in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O Ugh ok, I didn't want to do this but I was curious to see how embarassing it was. Notice I've been kissing The Pits' ass for 6 years now. =) Jason ------------------- From: Jason Moyer ([email hidden]) Subject: The Nabisco Cup (cigarette ban) View: Complete Thread (2 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Date: 1996/08/26 As a teen-age smoker and underrage drinker, I would like to say that I honestly don't care one way or the other about the ban of cigarettes/alcohol from sporting events. However, there are a few points that I would like to see people consider (from both sides): 1. Winston cigarettes are manufactured by RJR-Nabisco correct?? This is a HUGE corporation, which owns many businesses that are not related to alcohol/tobacco. Since it's a corporation, all of the assets of the individual businesses are considered assets of the corp.; to make a long story short, it shouldn't be all that difficult for RJR-N to advertise a different product instead of tobacco/alcohol -- for example, the drivers could race for the Nabisco Cup (I realize that it doesn't sound the same, of course, but if you think about it, it doesn't sound any more absurd than naming the Cup after any other product). 2. As far as teams being unable to compete without tobacco/alcohol sponsors, well, I have a ? for you all...name 1 alcoholic beverage that has EVER appeared on one of Richard Petty's cars (anwer: none). 3. Final point: RJR and other tobacco corpomonsters continuously say things like "our advertisements aren't meant to lure people into smoking." OK, that makes sense. Why else would a company advertise? Because they feel that they're contributing to society? Ha... Sorry if this ruffles anyone's feathers. I honestly brought these points up to add facts (?) to these great discussions that we've been having in regards to this proposed ban on cigarettes. Oh, yeah... 4. My personal reactions to the "Let NASCAR make the rules rather than the FDA" t-shirts: So, basically what you're trying to say is that a group of individuals who stand to make money from the involvement of tobacco in motorsports should make decisions regarding that involvement rather than an objective federal administration which has nothing to gain or lose either way. I guess this point could be argued (I hope it is), but this is my personal reaction to that way of thinking. R.A.S. is great - i've been reading it for months...thanks a bundle to john, tony, jan&jed and everyone else who volunteers to keep this network of sim-support going...also to ed, adam, and charlie for keeping us abreast on what's happening with yer sims Jason

Alan Bernardo 19 Nov 2002 04:10 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89490

Can I play? Can't remember my first post. But I remember being on GEnie way back in the mid '80s. My phone bills used to be astronomical. :) Alanb "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]...

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> Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post > in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O > > > > > =========================================== > EVERYBODY READ THIS IMPORTANT, > > I think Sierra is controling this Newsgroup. She deletes Post that she > does not want. Like here's an exemple. IN Netscape 3.0 I can not find > any message about the Indianapolistrack, or the Nascar2sucks. Hope it's > not real because ther's a problem here!!! The Blue ribbon speech could > make a good paper for this. Anyway who's in charge ofd this > Newsgroup???. > > Good races at the Brickyard, > > //// > O O Go RubensB., go J.Gordon, go J.Villeneuve, go G.Moore!! > < And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is > --- from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le > Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada. > > Franï¿½ois Mï¿½nard "Wasupe LeGrand" > Nicolas Mï¿½nard "Nien Numb" > May the force be with you, always!! > Tu ne peut sous-estimer le pouvoir du cï¿½tï¿½ obscur!! (for you French > people) > Excuse me for my poor English (I'm French speaking) > =============================================== > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- Franï¿½ois Mï¿½nard <ymenard> > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > >

Jeff Vincent 19 Nov 2002 04:46 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89492

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 21:02:24 -0500, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post >in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O A fun game for young and old. :) Here's mine, from almost seven years ago(!) ------------------------------------------------------------ From: [email hidden] (Jeff Vincent) Subject: Al Unser Jr. Arcade Racing for PC --- Opinions? Date: 1996/02/02 Message-ID: <4es5n1$[email hidden]>#1/1 organization: Wizvax Communications, Troy, N.Y. 12180 USA newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Hi all. I've been lurking for some time, but now I have a Q for you all... What's the scoop on this game? I have heard *zero* mention of it here, so I *assume* it's doggie do-do, but I figured I'd check with the experts. I prefer realistic IndyCar sims and have experience with ICR1, ICR2, NASCAR, and F1GP1. Would it amuse me at all? Thanks for any info... Jeff / [email hidden] / Michael in '96! P.S. - Hi to Jim D., Dick S., Mike D. and any other friends from the Papyrus BBS! ------------------------------------------------------------ "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Sideshow Bob 19 Nov 2002 05:43 UTC↳ reply to Jeff Vincent #89494

> > Jeff / [email hidden] / Michael in '96! > Ah the good old days when you could post your email address in plain text without getting spammed to death...

Milhouse 19 Nov 2002 05:52 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89498

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]... > Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post > in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O Har...has it really been that long? I landed GPL for Christmas, and coming via UPS was our Pentium II 350 setup with an 8MB Millenium G200 card... --- From: Kirk Lane <[email hidden]> Subject: Grand Prix Legends & MGA-200 Patch Date: 1998/12/25 Message-ID: <[email hidden]>#1/1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: [email hidden] X-Trace: news.neta.com 914644948 26939 206.124.172.33 (26 Dec 1998 04:02:28 GMT) Organization: Internet Access Inc. NetA.Com Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Dec 1998 04:02:28 GMT Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Has anyone tried Grand Prix Legends with Matrox's MGA-200 hardware acceleration patch? It's in beta, I just want to know if it works any good and if it is worth risking any crashes (?). -- Kirk Lane ICQ #: 3661231 [email hidden] Amateur 'Ham' Radio Callsign: KC7ZNJ Snake64's Gaming Palace: THE place for all of your gaming (card or video) needs http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arcade/4764/ "So much for the afterglow!" --Everclear

The Black Cat =^..^= 19 Nov 2002 07:07 UTC↳ reply to Sideshow Bob #89501

I can't believe people still have copies of stuff from 5 or 6 years ago. I clean out my old stuff every month or so. At any rate, I know I've been on here forever and have no recollection at all about my first note. It's lost in the mists of time.

doktorB 19 Nov 2002 07:10 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89502

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]... > Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post > in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O I'm going to cheat a little - the following is my first **GPL-related** post on RAS, dated March 10th, 1998: ------- Asgeir, I totally agree with everything you say..but - I think Papyrus' Grand Prix Legends (July release) will be the answer to our prayers.. To respond to your points: 1) > developers should listen to what we have to say! - I have been monitoring various newsgroups such as this, and the forum at the APEX GPL site at http://gpl.gamestats.com/ , and have been pleased to see that one of the game's designers, Mike Lescault, participates in the forum, answering questions and taking suggestions. Participants in the forum have brought up points that they think Mike(and the other developers) should know about (eg: someone questioned the accuracy of having six speed gearboxes back in 1967/68. Mike checked into it, and told us that some of the teams had them, some of them did not. Well, another participant corrected him and told him for a fact that was incorrect. Mike wrote back to say that although they could not correct this for the demo, the final version will be corrected.) This is just of many points that have come up, and that Mike has acknowledged. - Newsgroups are an excellent medium for collecting gamer's views and ideas. (Now how about a game being developed totally on the input of newsgroup members?!!) 2) > The end-users know what is required from a sim in order to have long lasting fun (internet leagues , online/offline) - GPL will have direct support for TCP/IP and IPX protocols. Furthermore, multiplayer mode has been designed to virtually eliminate "warping", which is a common problem with some games out there today. 3) > .. that Geoff(Crammond) and other writers have limited contact with the internet community, at least it's not known that he has contact with us - See above. Mike Lescault also wrote the following, on Mon Feb 16th: "We read each and every suggestion that we receive, in addition to monitoring r.a.s. and other newsgroups as well as other forums like this one. Due to the amount of comments and suggestions we receive, we cannot respond to each message. However, we definitely find the time to read anything our customers take the time to write and send off to us." - So they at least "claim" to be listening to us. I believe Mike because he has taken the time to respond to numerous questions on the APEX forum. (But just because they've read what we send them doesn't mean they're going to do anything about it, does it?) Like you said, Asgeir, the DEVELOPER has the wish for perfection, it is the Publishing House that rushes the game out full of errors. Last year, Grand Prix Legends was slated for a fall release (of '97), then got moved to Christmas, then.. and now we are being told JULY. Of course, many of us can't wait for the game to come out, but at the same time, everyone (to a tee) has said "I would prefer to wait a couple of months to get a polished game, than to go home today with a piece of crap." Of course, as the David Kaemmer and Mike Lescault have both said many times, the game will never be finished - there is always something extra that can be added, but is left out due to time restraints. To conclude, I think Grand Prix Legends will easily be the most realistic, challenging, and fun simulation available. The physics model was started from scratch, and the attention to detail that the guys at Papyrus have put into the game is absolutely phenominal. This will be the answer to every sim fan's dreams.. (Having said that, if you don't like classic F1, and you want to wait till next winter, Nascar3 will use the same physics engine and will hopefully include many of the ideas that were suggested to Papyrus but were too late to include in GPL.) But I'm a real RACING fan(Nascar fans take that to mean whatever you want!), and the glory days of Formula One is where it's at come July. Long Live Papyrus!!! D.B. ---

Dave Henrie 19 Nov 2002 07:28 UTC↳ reply to The Black Cat =^..^=#89504

"The Black Cat =^..^=" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I can't believe people still have copies of stuff from 5 or 6 years > ago. I clean out my old stuff every month or so. > > At any rate, I know I've been on here forever and have no recollection > at all about my first note. It's lost in the mists of time. That's what google is for...search for yourself

Tim Miser 19 Nov 2002 07:34 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89505

I think my first post only contained the text "34". Replying to some guy taking a survey on everyone's age cuz he was just bored. -Tim "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]...

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Joe M. 19 Nov 2002 07:42 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89506

Although I thought I posted earlier, google has me in this OT thread about Y2K back in 1998 (talk about a premature debate - anyone care to debate Y10K?). Most people were hammering this guy Rick who was predicting Armageddon: >>>>>From: Joe Marques <[email hidden]> Subject: Re: Y2K - what a whole load of bollocks Date: 1998/11/26 Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Boing? Is that the sound your walls make when you run into them, you know the springs beneath the padding. Wacko! rick@connect-dot-net wrote:

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> > Matthew V. Jessick wrote: > > > Probably because Boeing and suppliers have reported themselves > > compliant... > > They have self-reported themselves as "on tract" to being compliant, but > have NOT finished the job. Also, Boing has expressed GRAVE concern over > it's vendor's progress as many of those have ignored the problem and, > thus, have not even begun remediating systems yet. > > Boing is toast. > > Rick > >>>>>

-- Joe M. "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]... > Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post > in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O >

Milhouse 19 Nov 2002 08:36 UTC↳ reply to Dave Henrie #89513

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nKlC9.80989$QZ.12990@sccrnsc02...

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> > "The Black Cat =^..^=" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I can't believe people still have copies of stuff from 5 or 6 years > > ago. I clean out my old stuff every month or so. > > > > At any rate, I know I've been on here forever and have no recollection > > at all about my first note. It's lost in the mists of time. > > > That's what google is for...search for yourself >

Yup, it's out in there, somewhere, unless you slapped an X-No-Archive: Yes or whatever it is onto it. Milhouse

Stephen Ferguson 19 Nov 2002 08:38 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89512

December 1993: Just the usual stuff: hardware problems, complaining about hyperbolic performance claims from hardware companies, bitching about poor contols, and striving for higher framerates. Von:Ferguson Stephen ([email hidden]) Betrifft:Re: INDYCAR QUESTION View: Complete Thread (10 articles) Original Format Newsgroups:rec.autos.simulators Datum:1993-12-08 11:19:16 PST Well, I've managed to get IndyCar to work with 4meg and a GUS using SBOS -o3 and the 1.02 patch for ICR. However, I'm wondering if anyone has managed to get this MegaEM Sound Blaster emulation that Gravis has distributed to work? As far as Gravis's claims that the GUS sounds better than a SB go, I say listen to MicroProse's World Circuit on a SoundBlaster and on a GUS running SBOS and try to make that claim with a straight face. The SoundBlaster sounds like the in-car video from ESPN... the GUS with SBOS sounds like a tin whistle. While I'm typing I'll offer my thoughts on some other posts. I agree that the one negative aspect of WC is the inability to take different lines with steering help on, and the inablility to control the car with it switched off... I'm in the process of soldering together a wheel with 270 degrees of motion to alleviate this problem. However, I DO like the fact that I can shut off all the superfluous texture mapping and run the game at 25 fps for an excellent "feel". Next to this ICR's 15 fps max looks choppy. I say Papyrus should let those of us who don't give a damn about sponsor decals really bump up the frame rate and DRIVE!! Stephen

Mike White 19 Nov 2002 09:56 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89517

ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]... > Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post > in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O > Subject: Re: Where has Papyrus Website gone??? Date: 1996/08/23 Eric T. Busch wrote: > > As far as I know, there isn't one anymore. Both Nascar and ICR2 now show > up under the Sierra's Titles pages. I think they are listed in the > simulations category, but it could be sports. There is still the Hawaii > page at: http://www.sierra.com/papyrus/ > try http://papy.com In hind sight I should have asked... How would you know? :)

Uwe Schuerkamp 19 Nov 2002 10:00 UTC↳ reply to Uncle Fester #89521

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:04:23 -0500, Uncle Fester wrote:

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> ymenard wrote: >> Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post >> in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O > > > LOL, talk about memories. My first in RAS was November of '97. I was > helping a guy who couldn't get his carset to load in N1. (!!) >

My first post in RAS is from July 1996 as google remembers it, and it appears to be a bashing of GP2, as it should be ;-) My first ever google recorded post is dated 7-May-1991 and was to comp.sys.amiga. How time flies... uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Txl 19 Nov 2002 11:00 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89522

>> Well your understeer/oversteer idea is really good but you can alwaysargue >> that it doesn't exist in real cars, although it is possible with a good >> telemtry system such as the one from PI research. >> >> On the other hand if you take into account that '67 drivers had to hadtheir >> telemetry "in the ass" because their ass was the sensor for inline G, >> lateral G, understeer and oversteer it is clear that they have anadvantage >> over us because my seatis not moving when i play GPL (although) it has >> wheels so it could move...) >> >> Discussion opened. >> -- The first ever pinball ezboard !! http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball "ymenard" <[email hidden]> a ï¿½crit dans le message de news: bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]... > Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post > in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O > > > > > =========================================== > EVERYBODY READ THIS IMPORTANT, > > I think Sierra is controling this Newsgroup. She deletes Post that she > does not want. Like here's an exemple. IN Netscape 3.0 I can not find > any message about the Indianapolistrack, or the Nascar2sucks. Hope it's > not real because ther's a problem here!!! The Blue ribbon speech could > make a good paper for this. Anyway who's in charge ofd this > Newsgroup???. > > Good races at the Brickyard, > > //// > O O Go RubensB., go J.Gordon, go J.Villeneuve, go G.Moore!! > < And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is > --- from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le > Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada. > > Franï¿½ois Mï¿½nard "Wasupe LeGrand" > Nicolas Mï¿½nard "Nien Numb" > May the force be with you, always!! > Tu ne peut sous-estimer le pouvoir du cï¿½tï¿½ obscur!! (for you French > people) > Excuse me for my poor English (I'm French speaking) > =============================================== > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- Franï¿½ois Mï¿½nard <ymenard> > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > >

iksteh 19 Nov 2002 11:31 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89524

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]... > Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post > in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O > My first post was a followup - my nick "jetjason" had stemmed from playing too much pitstop II !! From: Jason Harrison ([email hidden]) Subject: Re: GP2 Fastest laps I dont give a shit View: Complete Thread (12 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Date: 1996/09/10 Sorry for following a followup, but the original has expired on me :-) T Galvin wrote: > Like many drivers out there I am amazed at some of the fast GP2 lap > times that are posted on the internet (how can they possibly do those > times) After a few weeks research of setups and such Ive finally found > out how they are being done.After a few weeks of research into setups, many people are lapping at those fast times you're talking about rather than complaining about not being able to achieve them. Practice is required as well as research! >eg By taking all the wing of the back and bumping up the gear ratio >you can achieve a top speed of around 330 km/h about 207 mp/h. >Keeping the front wing at 8 or 9 and moving brake bias forward will >give you all stopping and turning you need. The car however will be >very light in the tail this can be helped by using oposite lock help .[garbage about cheating deleted] Interesting enough, in it's own special way, the manual suggests precisely these sorts of modifications. What really needs to be done is many laps practice and selecting the ideal line for you. I can run 1:24s in practice at Monza now, and am still getting more into advanced setups (Mad Catz wheel+pedals). The car was initially a dog to control, but adjusting to find a balance and learning the ideal turn in point, spot to graze the curb and the SMOOTH addition of accelerator out of each corner makes me confident of reducing that time some more. It is the effort required in both setup and driving a particular setup that makes the game so rewarding. > What a load of shit, I couldent be bothered .Why did you buy the game? Then again I hate the commando missions in Command&Conquer :-) Jet ([email hidden]) iksteh

Alan Gauton 19 Nov 2002 11:38 UTC↳ reply to iksteh #89529

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]... > > Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post > > in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O My first post was also a follow up - in this case someone was looking for a demo of Driver... ymenard wrote:

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> > Sachsenmaier wrote > >hi, > >does anybody know where i can download a playable demo of "DRIVER" ?? > > Wow you are a persistent fellow ;) > > From what I see there is no demo yet out of this title by GTI Interactive (I > think they are the producers). The best thing is to check out their > websites. For those who don't know, it's a title that mixes Interstate 76 > with MS Midtown Madness, Im looking forward to this for incredible fun, > especially since they did the city of Miami AND Los Angeles. > > And who cares if it's arcade or no, seems one heck of a fun :)

The initial demos for the Playstation are receinving mixed reviews - some people are finding it hellishly hard, while others just love it. The demo is currently available in the UK on the Official Playstation Magazine. -- AG Remove removes from address to remove anti-spam measures. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan Gauton E-Mail agauton @ postmaster.co.uk Never for me the lowered banner, never the last endeavour! (Damon Hill - 16th June 1999)

Ice D 19 Nov 2002 12:37 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89528

Here's mine, almost 4 years ago. Apparently none of you bastards responded, so it took me about 5 months to post my second message... ;) Ice D ___ From: "Ice D" <[email hidden]> Subject: MS FF Wheel vs Actlab FF Wheel? Date: 1998/12/03 Message-ID: <744n5p$s33$[email hidden]>#1/1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Complaints-To: [email hidden] X-Trace: freyja.bart.nl 912646137 28771 194.158.175.4 (3 Dec 1998 00:48:57 GMT) Organization: bART Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Dec 1998 00:48:57 GMT Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators I've read a lot of good things about the Microsoft FF steering wheel, but has anyone here got any experience with the FF wheel from Actlab? Does anyone know how these two compare? (By the way, I've heard that the Actlab setup is quite large. How's that with the MS wheel?) Ice D ___

Nick 19 Nov 2002 13:04 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89532

Such an innocent question, back on 2001-7-11 (wow, relative newbie). Little did I know exactly where THAT one was going to lead... ------- Hi, does anybody know where I can find **very detailed** information on car physics such as suspension and lateral tyre grip? I am writing a simulation and I don't want to 'rig' the physics like most racing games. Cheers, Nick. ------- The answers I got were: 1) "Race Car Vehicle Dynamics" from Amazon - closely followed by Doug Milliken saying sae.org :-) 2) Book list on the old Racer site from Ruud 3) NASA Strangely, NASA haven't got back to me yet, but the other two sources have been great...

B.Farmer 19 Nov 2002 13:23 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89535

Thought there were some sooner (maybe I used a dif name?), but this is the earliest I could find : From: "B. Farmer" <[email hidden]> Subject: Re: IndyCarII/CART Date: 1998/08/07 Bruce Kennewell wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

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>John C. wrote: >> >> Which is better, IndyCarII or CART? IndyCarII is only $12.99 at EB > and >> CART is $19.99 at EB. What's the difference between the two? > > >$7-99? > >-- >Regards, >Bruce. >---------- >The GP Legends Historic Motor Racing Club is located at:- >http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

Uhhhh, $19.99 - 12.99 _________ $ 7.00 right? Maybe money math is different over there? ;P (disclaimer) Just kidding; really, honest, no fooling. Trust me. Brian

Ken MacKay 19 Nov 2002 13:45 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89449

Geesh, and I thought I was a newbie in this group... 14 pages of google results dating back to Dec. 1995! Ken <lurk mode on> From: Ken MacKay ([email hidden]) Subject: World Circuit II by Spectrum Holobyte?? Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Date: 1995/12/11 A local (Halifax, Nova Scotia, Can.) computer store ran an ad for "World Circuit Grand Prix II" by Spectrum Holobyte. At first I thought the Spectrum Holobyte was a mistake by the store but the photo of the box shows what looks to be a 94 Williams with Spectrum Holobyte written underneath. Has anyone heard of this before or possibly used it? Is it the new F1GP sim by Microprose put out under a different company name? ymenard wrote: > Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post > in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O > >

Jussi 'Igor' Koukku 19 Nov 2002 14:23 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89461

My first RAS post is as recent as from June 2001... couple of months after I re-discovered GPL... nothing of great interest, just trying to help a fellow GPL'er. To my own surprise my first usenet posts were made 14th of November 1994! The groups were rec.autos.misc (although it seems that I posted an emtpy message ;) and ... dramatic pause ... rec.toys.lego =) And Eep called me a newbie... oh well <shrug> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jussi 'Igor' Koukku ([email hidden]) Subject: Re: Is it GPL or my computer (stutters)? Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Date: 2001-06-12 04:09:55 PST "Klaus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I have had this stutters since I installed GPL. I have a V3 3000 also (with P3-600) and I was also getting similar stuttering, but I saw this at the Legends Central GPL forum (can't remeber who wrote it, I just copy/pasted it to a text file...): ================== These settings go into the GPL\core.ini file. disable_modem = 1 ; Prevent GPL from looking for modem. Speeds up startup and prevents problems. Disable unless you want to play by direct modem-to-modem. disable_network = 1 ; Disable network support. If you will never run GPL on your local area network / home network this can be set to disabled. disable_tcp_ip = 0 ; Disable TCP/IP support. To play over the internet on VROC servers using TCP/IP this should not be disabled. disable_ipx = 1 ; Disable IPX protocol? Most people do not use the IPX protocol any longer and use TCP/IP, you should set this to disabled. ================== The disable_modem option is supposed to be the one causing some stuttering, and disabling it reduced the stuttering for me... BTW, 0 = false and 1 = true... - Igor - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- - Igor -

Goy Larsen 19 Nov 2002 14:24 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89462

ymenard wrote: > > Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post > in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O Can't find it, Google doesn't return anything on me before Jun 97 and I know I posted here well before that, probably late 95 or early 96 Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

Joachim Trensz 19 Nov 2002 15:37 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89463

Now where's this 'I'm taking over...' post Franï¿½ois, I'd _love_ to read that one again :) Achim "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]...

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Dave Cook 19 Nov 2002 15:45 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89470

Mitch_A 19 Nov 2002 16:09 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89474

Seems like yesterday... From: Mitch Alatorre ([email hidden]) Subject: RE: Help! NASCAR and WINDOWS 95! View: Complete Thread (3 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Date: 1995/09/02 Thats strange because Nascar seems to run better(DOS PRMPT)than it did under native dos. Have you ran memmaker from DOS? I ran memmaker twice. 1. I booted using F4(dual Boot)then ran memmaker pressing f4 as soon as win95 started on the reboots. 2. I ran memmaker from Dos Window. seems to work fine now. Naman"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]...

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David Buttery 19 Nov 2002 21:07 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89579

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote on 19 Nov 2002: > Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your > first post in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O<snip> Here we are: I'm pleased to see I had a proper newsreader even then, though X-Stream as an ISP isn't something to look back on all that fondly... From: [email hidden] (David Buttery) Subject: GPL - UK budget rerelease pricing Date: 2000/02/27 Message-ID: <[email hidden]>#1/1 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 951614276 2244494 212.139.138.14 (16 [20998]) Organization: Not enough User-Agent: Xnews/03.02.04 Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators According to the Gameplay site at: http://www.gameplay.com/news/316347 the budget release of GPL on the Sierra Original label (which it says happened on Friday) only costs ten quid (about USD16). Very reasonable. The site also says: "believe us when we say that it'll take a bit of practice". You could say that... We can all afford an emergency 'scratched CD backup' now - I'm off to get mine on Monday! -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh) -- Above address *is* valid - but snip spamtrap to get me to *read*! 1) The GPL Scrapyard: http://www.btinternet.com/~gplscrapyard 2a) Bits'n'Bob-stones: http://www.geocities.com/daveb75 2b) WD Yahoo! Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/watershipdown

The Black Cat =^..^= 19 Nov 2002 21:17 UTC↳ reply to Dave Henrie #89581

On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:28:19 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > That's what google is for...search for yourself How do you get it to search newsgroups?

Dave Cook 19 Nov 2002 21:35 UTC↳ reply to The Black Cat =^..^=#89587

"The Black Cat =^..^=" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:28:19 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > > That's what google is for...search for yourself > > How do you get it to search newsgroups?

http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search - Dave Cook

Goy Larsen 19 Nov 2002 21:46 UTC↳ reply to The Black Cat =^..^=#89391

"The Black Cat =^..^=" wrote:

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> > On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:28:19 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > That's what google is for...search for yourself > > How do you get it to search newsgroups?

http://www.google.com/ -> "groups" -> "Advanced Groups Search" Fill in whatever you feel like in the appropriate fields Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

ymenard 19 Nov 2002 21:59 UTC↳ reply to Alan Gauton #89399

>"Alan Gauton" <[email hidden]> wrote > My first post was also a follow up - in this case someone was looking for > a demo of Driver... Your first post was a reply to myself as I see? I'm honored ;) -- -- Franï¿½ois Mï¿½nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

ymenard 19 Nov 2002 22:03 UTC↳ reply to Goy Larsen #89402

>"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > Can't find it, Google doesn't return anything on me before Jun 97 and I > know I posted here well before that, probably late 95 or early 96 pfffffffttttt, see Goy is just brown-nosing everybody here because of his Bull Run 1000 win now. ;) Where you at the [email hidden] email addy back then? There's a hit from you dating back in 1996 in an asus newsgroup, weird. -- -- Franï¿½ois Mï¿½nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

ymenard 19 Nov 2002 22:03 UTC↳ reply to Joachim Trensz #89401

>"Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote > Now where's this 'I'm taking over...' post Franï¿½ois, I'd _love_ to readthat > one again :) Aaack some stuff are better to be left out hidden under a pile of dirt ;) -- -- Franï¿½ois Mï¿½nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Goy Larsen 19 Nov 2002 22:37 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89406

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> > >"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Can't find it, Google doesn't return anything on me before Jun 97 and I > > know I posted here well before that, probably late 95 or early 96 > > pfffffffttttt, see Goy is just brown-nosing everybody here because of his > Bull Run 1000 win now. ;) > > Where you at the [email hidden] email addy back then? There's a hit from > you dating back in 1996 in an asus newsgroup, weird.

Wow, I can't remember having a a mail account with those guys, that might have been a couple of months before I got my [email hidden] account, but they were our ISP back then so it sounds like it's me.....I gotta go look now Btw, there was a huge row over that ISP, they called themselves Internet Norge (Norway) and secured the domain internet.no, had they not went banrupt before the dotcom craze I'm sure they would have made a small fortune, but when they went belly up that domain name was put on the restricted list by Norid I belive Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Goy Larsen 19 Nov 2002 22:44 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89407

ymenard wrote: > > Where you at the [email hidden] email addy back then? There's a hit from > you dating back in 1996 in an asus newsgroup, weird. That was my buddy JoHS using my computer as his was down with a BIOS problem, still remember that one, ASUS wanted in the region of 100 dollars to replace his faulty BIOS (including shipping) and a new board was something like 125-150.....:-) Ah, those were the times, Soundblaster PRO and Gravis UltraSound, and Diamond Stealth video cards with VRAM, if memory serves me right he had the 2 MB upgrade kit on it as well, all I could afford at the time was the 2MB card with DRAM, but I had a P120 :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Joachim Trensz 19 Nov 2002 23:26 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89405

:-) IMO, that was a classic :-) Achim "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ByyC9.5967$[email hidden]...

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> >"Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Now where's this 'I'm taking over...' post Franï¿½ois, I'd _love_ to read > that > > one again :) > > > Aaack some stuff are better to be left out hidden under a pile of dirt ;) >

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> -- > -- Franï¿½ois Mï¿½nard <ymenard> > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > >

Ed White 19 Nov 2002 23:45 UTC↳ reply to David Buttery #89421

> "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote on 19 Nov 2002: > > > Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your > > first post in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O > <snip>Well, that was an interesting exercise, brought back lots of memories of trying to get GPL to run.........got 38 replies to my original query, too, many from names I still see here regularly. Thanks for then, and thanks for keeping r.a.s. the place it is for simracers. PS I kinda like my old sig line....... Hi folks, i have just installed GPL for the third time this week, since it stopped working after loading OpenGL files to my GPL folder......after loading OpenGL and adjusting the settings in core.ini, i played for awhile and shut down.....after restart, I could not get game to run....illegal operation.......invalid page fault....blah blah blah....but a r.a.s. post advised me to change display setting from 256 to 16 bit...which I did, and the game started, but all commands executed slooowwllyyy, and when I finally saw the trainer sitting on pit road, i selected first gear and stabbed the pedal..car sat in pits, while I heard the sound of a car squealing away and crashing into the pit barriers....so, uninstall, reinstall,drive around some,and wonder, what did I do wrong? I saved opengl before the uninstall, so i can copy it in if I want....but does it really help? It didn't seem to make a great deal of difference when I had it running...Any ideas? Ed Go #2 and #88 " Suckin' Gas and Haulin' Ass " [email hidden]

The Black Cat =^..^= 20 Nov 2002 00:33 UTC↳ reply to Dave Cook #89427

Okay finally found it. 28 Aug 98... ----- On Sat, 29 Aug 1998 01:23:46 +1000, Byron Forbes <[email hidden]> wrote: > ICR2 not playable??????? In what way? It might just be me, but the cars always felt like they were on ice to me no matter what I did with setups. It finally got so frustrating that I just took the game off the HD. | )/-\(_)|__ [email hidden] ===|============================================== Remove the NOSPAM from my address to mail me ================================================== "You just keep going faster and faster and finally...you burst into fire forever." -- Laura Palmer

The Black Cat =^..^= 20 Nov 2002 00:36 UTC↳ reply to Goy Larsen #89429

Wait a second, that was the NEWEST one it listed... The first one was 5 Oct 1994 (that seems more like it...) ----- On 3-OCT-1994 10:32:30.0 dgymer said to NYTSHADE > [Should I insist upon use of GPLAP?]Dave: GPLAP has that authentication feature, but I tried several months ago to get the code key so that I could use it in my GEnie league and Trev declined. Without that key, it really wouldn't serve any purpose... > 3. Entry classesI really think you should only have two classes -- regular and outlaw. The first requires 716hp, no chicane jumping, etc, while the latter is anything goes. However, CIS used to do this and the outlaw class just faded away after a couple months. IMHO, creative cheating is not nearly so satisfying as turning a quick, legal lap. (And I should say at this point that I am the first one who reported the discovery that you can cut across from Variante Bassa to Traguardo at Imola... :) It saves about 6 seconds...) I )/-\(_)I__ \/-----\/-----\/-----\/-----\/ Paul Hamilton I nightshade /\-----/\-----/\-----/\-----/\ [email hidden] p.s. -- did you see the Monza results? Save for the illegal settings, I won. <sigh> Live and learn I guess...

The Black Cat =^..^= 20 Nov 2002 00:45 UTC↳ reply to The Black Cat =^..^=#89434

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 00:36:43 GMT, The Black Cat =^..^= <[email hidden]> wrote: >Wait a second, that was the NEWEST one it listed... > >The first one was 5 Oct 1994 (that seems more like it...)It's fascinating to read back through these old notes and remember the folks who were around then -- Doug Reichley, who was the first "alien" I ever knew, Trevor Kellaway, the master of F1GP utilities, and back then, Brian Wong, who now runs GPL Rank, was my teammate in Kattywumpus Motorsports.

Milhouse 20 Nov 2002 01:50 UTC↳ reply to Goy Larsen #89347

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > ymenard wrote: > > > > Where you at the [email hidden] email addy back then? There's a hitfrom

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> > you dating back in 1996 in an asus newsgroup, weird. > > That was my buddy JoHS using my computer as his was down with a BIOS > problem, still remember that one, ASUS wanted in the region of 100 > dollars to replace his faulty BIOS (including shipping) and a new board > was something like 125-150.....:-) > > Ah, those were the times, Soundblaster PRO and Gravis UltraSound, and > Diamond Stealth video cards with VRAM, if memory serves me right he had > the 2 MB upgrade kit on it as well, all I could afford at the time was > the 2MB card with DRAM, but I had a P120 :-) >

Hah, I remember that! My trusty old Stealth64 2MB PCI...I had DOS batchfiles out the wazoo to make it so that two keys would disable the screen-blanking, then launch the game with whatever parameters...you know, if you were a masochist and felt like always starting off with "icr2 -h" ;) I remember first upgrading that P90 from 8MB to 16MB...I thought I was hot stuff... Milhouse

Don Burnette 20 Nov 2002 01:54 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89343

Pretty cool thread, did some searching on dejanews and came up with this, which I believe was my first post on this forum back in Sept 97. Interestingly enough, it was on 9/11/97. This was a response to a post by Aaron in regards to the rendition video card. Aaron Holtz <[email hidden]> wrote in article <[email hidden]>...

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> snip snip > processor. I have run Nascar II extensively (using the Rendition > executable) > for quite some time, so I have a decent comparison between my 133 and my > 233. > Bottom line is they run almost EXACTLY the same speed wise. > Martinsville is > still poor into the turns and certain tracks still have their glitches > coming > out of turn 4 or at other spots. I was pretty disappointed when I ran > this. > I don't have any PCI latency things to tweak in the bios, but I believe > the > problem with Nascar II is the programming of the rendition executable. > --Aaron

I recently upgraded to a Dell Dimension XPS 233 mmx system with 32 mb sdram. I took the Sierra rendition card out of my old system (p90) and put it in my new system. My frame rate is very smooth in win95. While it was good in my PB p-90 with the rendition card, I got pauses in the turns in win95. On this new system, there are no pauses. I have set the min frame rate to 30 fps and run with all graphics on, and they all stayed on. If your getting pauses, try running it in rendition with the -4 command switch. This forces the system to load 4 bit textures instead of 8 bit textures. I believe you have to have the patch installed in order to use the -4 switch. Just start the sim with the "renddma -4" command. This should alleviate your pauses. I don't have any problem running it without the -4 command. DonB. -- Don Burnette

Don Burnette 20 Nov 2002 01:59 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89345

Heh heh, this one brought back some memories from /15/97 -- Don Burnette Handy^Man <[email hidden]> wrote in article <[email hidden]>... > Hi, > this is a question for the Hawaii N1 racers... > Why do I do better (faster laps) while connected, than I do by myself ? > just wondering here. Snip You'll find the traction and car physics to be a little different under Hawaii multiplayer mode than in your regular Nascar 1 racing mode. You'll probably see slightly better speeds at most of the tracks. Best way to get a feel for it is to practice starting the sim with the "multi" command, or "multi -h" for svga graphics. This will put you on the tracks as they are in hawaii, but only in testing ( single player) mode. DonB.

Don Burnette 20 Nov 2002 02:17 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89350

Lol, how about this one from Oct '97? Ok, I'll stop now - hard to believe I have been hanging out around here for over 5 years... Don Burnette Papyrus is dead?? Somehow, I don't think so. In my opinion, Papyrus has been and will continue to be the leader in racing simulations. I agree with you that 3dfx seems to be winning the battle on the graphics cards, but it will be interesting to see what the newer rendition cards do . I suspect if 3dfx indeed does become the predominant gameing graphics card, Papyrus will start supporting it. I just wish they'd all settle on one platform, but I guess competition keeps everyone healthy and helps keep our costs down. -- Don Burnette John Cookson <[email hidden]> wrote in article <[email hidden]>... > Papyrus is dead ! > > The future of racing sims is now inextricably bound to 3D graphics > cards. 3DFX (Voodoo graphics) has already won the 3D battle. > > Unfortunately, Papyrus is now owned by Sierra who have a vested > interested in Rendition based 3D cards. Corporate stupidity will > not allow them to get their head out of the sand and develop > titles for 3DFX. We will be sorry to see their demise. > > This suicide course can only be averted if we lobby them with > an avalanche of requests ! >

Peter Ives 20 Nov 2002 02:36 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89353

In article <bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]>, ymenard <[email hidden]> writes >Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post >in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O > > >Gee, what a relative newbie I feel. Only been posting since mid 1999. Anyway, here's mine, which seemed way too sensible for a beginning post to a new group. From what I recall, I had been lurking for a short while, but couldn't resist for long and thought everyone needed this essential info. :) From: Peter Ives <[email hidden]> Subject: lost game controllers/ steering wheels Date: 1999/06/01 Message-ID: <[email hidden]>#1/1 X-Complaints-To: [email hidden] X-Trace: news6.svr.pol.co.uk 928261051 26691 62.136.24.95 (1 Jun 1999 18:17:31 GMT) Organization: Customer of Planet Online Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Peter Ives <[email hidden]> NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Jun 1999 18:17:31 GMT Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators I've noticed several posts to this ng with regard to steering wheels not being recognised anymore by Windows. I too had this problem on my Windows 95 system and despite several reinstalls, including a patch that the manufacturer said needed to be run first before things would work, nothing made any difference. Eventually I hit upon a solution which may not be an ideal one, but it worked for me. In fact if anyone out there has good reason to disagree with this possible fix then please post it here as a follow up. The reason I'm stating this is because it involved editing the registry. What I discovered was that although I thought I had uninstalled the original drivers for my wheel there was still references to them in the registry and it wasn't until I removed these references from there that my steering wheel was detected. So the first thing that I had done was to ensure that there was nothing showing in Device Manager, under Sound, Video and game controllers, that referred to my wheel. Then because this made no difference I then went to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Class\MEDIA by clicking on the little plus sign to left of each of these folders. In here I found various folders starting from 0000, then 0001 and so on... By highlighting each of the folder numbers I found that the information in the right-hand window of some of them still referred to my steering wheel drivers, so these numbered folders that referred to my wheel I highlighted and deleted. I can't remember exactly after this but I think I then was able to restart my computer and it detected my wheel and I was able to reinstall without any problems. As I said earlier it may seem a bit risky for some, but if anyone else has tried this and it worked for them, or anyone tries this and it works please post a follow up. -- Peter Ives -- Peter Ives Remove ALL_STRESS only before sending me an email

ymenard 20 Nov 2002 07:28 UTC↳ reply to Don Burnette #89381

>"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote >Ok, I'll stop now - hard to believe I have been hanging out around here forover 5 years... LOL. I have a couple of "Papy R.I.P." posts here throughout the years. I guess I was wrong, but right at the same time :) -- -- Franï¿½ois Mï¿½nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Milhouse 20 Nov 2002 07:38 UTC↳ reply to Milhouse #89382

"Milhouse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:arcjji$1p3$[email hidden]... >*** Correction! I did some more poking around and went with a REALLY old email, one I let go to spam YEARS ago...and dug up two older posts to this NG, by over a year before my 12/25/98 GPL post... So old, there's no timestamp, just an identical date of May 3, 1997... The first was a problem with my Thrustmaster T1 in Need For Speed...I never did figure it out... --- From: [email hidden] Subject: T1 in NFS Date: 1997/05/03 Message-ID: <5kgfup$ffm$[email hidden]>#1/1 Organization: GetNet International Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Hey all, I've had NFS for a while, and also with my T1. I know you need to use the white adapter to run it. But that's not my problem. My problem is a recurring, annoying thing. Occasionally, while driving, the steering wheel in the game will lock to the left and stay there. I have to reboot the computer to get out of it (with the joystick going 'left' its impossible to select and open menu options). Any help? Kirk Lane --- The second is a rant on NASCAR2...heh...and a rant on Sierra...the disturbing thing? I don't remember the bit about the bad CC# at all, LOL...am I really that old at 19? --- From: [email hidden] Subject: Re: If id software made Nascar2 Date: 1997/05/03 Message-ID: <5kgf4r$enf$[email hidden]>#1/1 References: <01bc5211$87437d00$[email hidden]> <[email hidden]> <5juunn$5iu$[email hidden]> <[email hidden]> <5kaqe0$rm$[email hidden]> <[email hidden]> <[email hidden]> Organization: GetNet International Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators

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>4. You mentioned that the tracks Daytona and the Brickyard would have >boosted sales.... >I bought the program under the impression that those "tracks" were >included in the CD, and was rather dissapointed when they werent. >But oh well, Im sure Pappy will put them online soon, at no extra >cost... after all we did PAY for ALL the tracks in the 96 season... >so they should be here soon.... (yeah right)

Here's where I'll disagree with you. I wish the Brickyard and the Beach were on there too, but one word: LICENCING (excuse the spelling). Sega OWNS the right to use those tracks in video games (Daytona USA, Daytona USA CCE, Indy 500, which are good games but NOT that realistic in the sense of the looks of the track). Sierra/Papy probably won't be able to get their stinkin' hands on them for a couple of years (and btw, one more gripe to add to the list of N2 gripes: We ordered the special 'upgrade' for $29.99 from Sierra with the 'promise' that it would be in time for christmas; come Dec. 25, no N2. Come late Feb, finally N2. They eventually sent back the order with the 'bad credit card #' error for a good credit card, all the while, sierra had told us they never got it!!) My 25 cents (i gave a lot) Kirk Lane

Jo Helsen 20 Nov 2002 09:11 UTC↳ reply to The Black Cat =^..^=#89246

Ah, the names :) Reading back MY first message I remember the incredible excitement I felt when discovering the HOF and LFRS F1GP competitions, and all the related utilities. Until I got online, I had always thought I was the only one who lost half his life on that sim :) As a result I started to lose 75% for the next 2 years LOL I don't care about sims anymore today though :( Also interesting that not that many people can post older messages than this! JoH From:Jo Helsen ([email hidden]) Subject:what about the hall of fame? Original Format Discussions:rec.autos.simulators Date:1995/07/31 What kind of BHP did the authors of these laptimes use? /==================================================================\ | Jo Helsen "don't do to others what you don't do to yourself" | | [email hidden] :°) | | Antwerp,Belgium,land of chocolate,beer & taxes |\==================================================================/ On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 00:45:46 GMT, The Black Cat =^..^= <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 00:36:43 GMT, The Black Cat =^..^= ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Wait a second, that was the NEWEST one it listed... >> >>The first one was 5 Oct 1994 (that seems more like it...) >It's fascinating to read back through these old notes and remember the >folks who were around then -- Doug Reichley, who was the first "alien" >I ever knew, Trevor Kellaway, the master of F1GP utilities, and back >then, Brian Wong, who now runs GPL Rank, was my teammate in >Kattywumpus Motorsports.

Alan J. Claffie 20 Nov 2002 15:44 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89222

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]... > Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post > in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O October 6 1995, regarding the first NFS. I can't believe I used a freekin smiley: From: Alan J. Claffie ([email hidden]) Subject: Re: Need For Speed add ons? Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, rec.autos.simulators Date: 1995/10/06 In <451tr9$[email hidden]> [email hidden] (Michael Jones) writes:

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>My 20 cents worth for the cars: > > Plymouth Acclaim > Plymouth Voyeger(sp?) > >I rented these cars while in the states. Ever done 100 mph in a van? SCARY! > >I would like to see some supercars in there. F50 would be good, an >IMSA perhaps, or a 962 Porsche. A go kart would be kewl....

When I play and drive by that light blue Honda CRX I wish I could jump out of whatever "supercar" I'm in and drive the Honda. At least in that I'm familiar with the dashboard and turning capabilities. But then again, I'd probably wind up with a CRX HF. Bleeeech! :) Claff This is one of a handful of posts I made regarding Hawaii, but I think it still kinda is relevant today: From: Alan J. Claffie ([email hidden]) Subject: More fun on Hawaii Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Date: 1996/04/30 This is from late Sunday night/early Monday morning A few of us IGNners hook up with some other racers and run a pleasant drive at Michigan. After that we took to more races at Martinsville, then N.Wilkesboro, then Richmond,then Dover. We nominated a new race after Dover, this time for Loudon. We're having a ball at these tracks that I for one have spent little or no time on before. We're waiting for people to finish up a race at Talladega and perhaps they would join us at Loudon. The race at Talley finished up, people start leaving, and apparently someone from that race nominated another one for that group. At Talladega. How many times can ya run that one track? I think (this is all in good clean fun of course) that there are people out there who are afraid to go to a track where they might have to apply brakes.

istoff 20 Nov 2002 17:20 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89234

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 21:02:24 -0500, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post >in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O > >Its been fun. I've tried to make positive contributions where possible. As evidence, my first post. replying to a question from St. Eldred about F1RC. hey. Where's that patch!!! ================================ eldred, as a big fan of the game, let me summarize. pro's * fantastic graphics (better than f1 2001 imo) * lots of addons freely available (www.f1-star.de) * online racing community via relay (www.f1rcrelay.com) * gorgeus track renditions in terms of inclines & slopes (better than f1 2001 imo). * excellent hotlapping with ghosts * excellent wet / dry / mixed weather racing * great Force Feedback. con's * AI numerous faults. not avoiding enough during braking * AI not avoiding accidents. * AI pitting during wet / dry races are predictable * Multiplayer sucks out of box. goto www.f1rcrelay.com for a better system. * No patch in sight. i still love it to bits. If you can pick it up somewhere for a low price, it might surprise you. i don't regret buying it for one minute. Regards all, istoff -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards all, istoff

istoff 20 Nov 2002 17:26 UTC↳ reply to istoff #89236

Good grief. I found this one using another search... This one is 26 December 1994. Glad to see I've been around a while. I remember that internet account. I used to pay for it per hour surfed :) As to the content. I eventually bought a dual format stiffy with the pc and amiga versions on it. pc version had crappy ega graphics similar to c64 version. as an aside, the best way to play it on your pc today is the atari st or amiga versions and an emulator. the st emulators are much easier to set up than the amiga ones for the beginner, although i have a soft spot for the amiga one. love this thread. sorry for my erroneous previous 'first post'. this one definately is the real deal. it was made using tin on a shell unix account!!! ------------------------------------- Hi. I've been playing with F1GP, IndyCar and Nascar for a while now. I had an argument with someone about car games and the conversation turned to Revs and Stunt Car Racer. For those who remember, Revs(BBC/Spectrum/C64) and SCR(AMIGA/C64/Speccy) were the first race games by Geoff Crammond(F1GP 1 and hopefully 2). My question(finally) is: Has anybody seen or played SCR for the PC? I saw it in a bargain pile here(South Africa) dirt cheap. Does it have SB Sound or VGA graphics, I can't tell by looking. Is it a good conversion from the Amiga? The original game was excellent. It was the **ONLY** game where the correct approach speed and angle of entry to a corner was critical to survival. If the game is as good as the Amiga version, I'll buy it. Anyway, please let me know what you guys think. Cheers and Happy holidays. -- **************************************** Ian Stoffberg [email hidden] **************************************** Regards all, istoff

mark.seery 21 Nov 2002 18:40 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #89017

Bad memories looking for my first posts. Way back in summer 1988. I was in a discussion with somebody about why they should lift the gas when shifting gears. I explained what happens to engines when you don't lift and how I'd never do it in my Sierra Cosworth. About 2 weeks later, said Cossie was written off trying to avoid a head on collision with a police car on a blue light job. He was on the wrong side of the road, overtaking on a blind bend approaching a roundabout. The fact that I was exiting the roundabout at low speed probably saved my life. Sigh. I look at my Crappy Citroen AX and Lotus Europa currently in bits undergoing restoration and summer seems a long way away :-( MS "James Koole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MPG.18436d14fe458200989683@nntp...

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> I remember it well, ymenard - you were distributing the Indy track and a > bunch of other folks in the group weren't in agreement that it was the > right thing to do. I'll admit that you were where I got my Indy track > from. > > here's what I think is my first post - July, 1996 - Netscape 2.0: > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From: James Koole <[email hidden]> > Subject: Re: NASCAR: realism and "Days of Thunder" > Date: 1996/07/29 > Message-ID: <[email hidden]>#1/1 > references: <4th8sq$[email hidden]> > <[email hidden]> > content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > organization: Canscape Inc. > mime-version: 1.0 > newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators > x-mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) > > > > "Days of Thunder" -- Nascar realism??? talk about an oxymoron. > -- > > reach me here... > > James Koole <[email hidden]> > > > > > > In article <bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]>, francois- > [email hidden] says... > > Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first

post > > in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O

EldredP 30 Nov 2002 01:47 UTC↳ reply to ymenard #87903

In article <bYgC9.18876$[email hidden]>, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> writes: >Okay now people, don't feel ashamed. Just reply here with your first post >in this newsgroup. I'm just bored. Wow ;-O First post on ANY newsgroup was on the alt.civnet newsgroup on 1997/02/09 First post here? I think this is it...: --------------------------------------------------------------- Message 5 in thread From: [email hidden] ([email hidden]) Subject: Re: To:Jim Sokoloff Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Date: 1997/03/29 In article <01bc39b0$41bc0640$0dfe3fcb@emery>, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Not particularly. >The replay feature(s) of any sim should always be secondary to the >simulation itself. >Imagine the flak that a developer/publisher would cop if the replay >facility sported a plethora of features at the expense of the actual >gameplay. >I would much rather see time and money spent on the gameplay, thank you >very much!

I missed the first part of this thread, so my comment may be out of place. I *like* a good replay feature. I can use it to try to learn where my mistakes are. The easier that is to do, the better. Eldred ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+6.19 N2002 Rank:+18.91 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Peter Ives 30 Nov 2002 16:18 UTC↳ reply to EldredP #87830

In article <[email hidden]>, EldredP <[email hidden]> writes

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>First post here? I think this is it...: >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Message 5 in thread >From: [email hidden] ([email hidden]) >Subject: Re: To:Jim Sokoloff > >Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators >Date: 1997/03/29 > > >In article <01bc39b0$41bc0640$0dfe3fcb@emery>, "Bruce Kennewell" ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>Not particularly. >>The replay feature(s) of any sim should always be secondary to the >>simulation itself. >>Imagine the flak that a developer/publisher would cop if the replay >>facility sported a plethora of features at the expense of the actual >>gameplay. >>I would much rather see time and money spent on the gameplay, thank you >>very much! > >I missed the first part of this thread, so my comment may be out of place. I >*like* a good replay feature. I can use it to try to learn where my mistakes >are. The easier that is to do, the better. > >Eldred

Oh, the irony!!! Only kidding Eldred. :) -- Peter Ives Remove ALL_STRESS only before sending me an email

sam 30 Dec 2002 20:03 UTC↳ reply to EldredP #84160

Hi i saw your post and wanted to ask you as this is only my 2nd post can i tell people about my site at http://select.50g.com which is all about uk and usa credit card applications.Or would i be banned for example can i go into detail about whats there. Thanks hope you can help

Malc 30 Dec 2002 20:22 UTC↳ reply to sam #84163

"sam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hi i saw your post and wanted to ask you as this > is only my 2nd post can i tell people about my site > at http://select.50g.com which is all about > uk and usa credit card applications.Or would i be > banned for example can i go into detail about whats > there. > > Thanks hope you can help

I can't help but admire the tenacity, but it's still spam, sorry. Malc.

Goy Larsen 30 Dec 2002 21:00 UTC↳ reply to Malc #84168

Malc wrote: > > I can't help but admire the tenacity, but it's still spam, sorry. And yet you decided to repost the link to his site ? :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Malc 30 Dec 2002 22:03 UTC↳ reply to Goy Larsen #84174

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Malc wrote: > > > > I can't help but admire the tenacity, but it's still spam, sorry. > > And yet you decided to repost the link to his site ? :-)

I admired the tenacity ;-) Malc.

Goy Larsen 31 Dec 2002 01:25 UTC↳ reply to Malc #84100

Malc wrote:

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> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Malc wrote: > > > > > > I can't help but admire the tenacity, but it's still spam, sorry. > > > > And yet you decided to repost the link to his site ? :-) > > I admired the tenacity ;-)

Admit it, you were struck with awe and forgot to delete it :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Malc 31 Dec 2002 01:56 UTC↳ reply to Goy Larsen #84110

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Malc wrote: > > > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > Malc wrote: > > > > > > > > I can't help but admire the tenacity, but it's still spam, sorry. > > > > > > And yet you decided to repost the link to his site ? :-) > > > > I admired the tenacity ;-) > > Admit it, you were struck with awe and forgot to delete it :-)

I just didn't have the heart after they'd put so much effort into it ;-) Malc.

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