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Caterham Superlight R500 Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record "The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds." "Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two non-road going race-prep�d cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car." Pictures: http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/r500-1024-2.jpg http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/r500-1024-4.jpg Links: http://www.caterham.co.uk http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/R500main.htm ENGINE: R500: 1.8 litre XPower K Series. 16 valve DOHC Max Power: 230 bhp @ 8600 rpm Max torque: 155 lbsft @ 7200 rpm 0-60 mph: 3.4 secs Max speed:150 mph Caterham Superlight - A road car yearning to be let loose on the track The Caterham Superlight has been designed to achieve the best possible dynamic package from the already competent Caterham Roadsport. This has been achieved by reducing the weight to a bare minimum whilst packaging the car with as many performance-enhancing options as possible. Although the car is supplied fully road legal, this unique model contains many track options. The stripped out interior with carbon fibre dashboard, Caterham four point race harness, Caterham composite race bucket seats and wind deflector in lieu of windscreen are fitted as standard. Standard equipment includes: Competition specification engine Carbon dashboard Caterham 6 speed gearbox Ventilated front discs with four pot calipers de Dion competition derived rear suspension Adjustable rear anti-roll bar Wide track and bespoke road tyres The complete package gives this car a total kerb weight of only 485 kgs, which is 65 kgs lighter than the standard Roadsport model. (R500 in standard form weighs in at 465 kgs). If you want to personalise your car, there is a list of options to add to your specifications and customers requiring the added practicality of windscreen and full weather equipment can of course specify these. R500 1.8 litre 230bhp K-Series power unit 13" Magnesium wheels with Avon CR500 tyres Carbon pack including nose, wings and wing protectors Magnesium upgrade pack including sump, bell housing and oil tower Stack instrumentation Limited slip differential Carbon nose and wings * Superlight R500 Model ============================================= http://www.motorcities.com/contents/02IPE385019579.html 2002 Caterham Superlight R500 - Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record � Caterham England, United Kingdom Caterham 4th September 2002 Caterham Speeds then Stops to New World Record The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds. The previous record time of 11.50 seconds had been set in 1999, in a MacLaren F1 LM car, specifically shod in bespoke race tyres. The 0-100-0 exercise, designed to separate the men from the boys when it comes to fast cars, was conducted a fortnight ago at Bruntingthorpe airfield. It was part of a series of tests conducted annually by the editorial team from Autocar Magazine. Test co-ordinator, Steve Sutcliffe commented: �In our experience 0-100-0 is the defining test of what is � and what isn�t � a genuinely rapid road car. Ideally your entrant will be light, very powerful, have great traction, a snappy gear change, well laid-out pedals and, most importantly of all maybe, a massive � and friendly to use- set of stoppers. �The Caterham R500 is the greatest expression of straight-line speed merged with awesome braking ability.� Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two non-road going race-prep�d cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car. Amongst the considerable scalps claimed by the British sportscar maker were the Pagani C12 S (11.84 seconds), the Porsche 911 Turbo (13.02 seconds) and the Lamborghini Murcielago (13.90 seconds). Caterham�s Managing Director, Simon Nearn, was delighted with the result: �When we created the R500, we spared nothing in our determination to reduce weight and then packed all the performance into it we could. We designed it specifically to go fast and stop fast. I am not surprised we finished top of the pile!� The complete test results are in the 25 September edition of Autocar. The Caterham Superlight R500 is priced at �36,200. Visit www.caterham.co.uk for further details.

"rrevved" wrote... > <snip> Very impressive, but I still think putting paint and a windscreen as optional extras on one's pricelist for a roadgoing sportscar is a bit "much". Jan. =---

i want this one more http://www.totalkitcar.com/articles/publish/article_11.shtml "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%Gtz9.13417$[email hidden]...

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> "rrevved" wrote... > > <snip> > > Very impressive, but I still think putting paint and a windscreen as > optional extras on one's pricelist for a roadgoing sportscar is a bit > "much". > > Jan. > =--- > >

Pish. Get this ;o) http://www.almostsmart.com/wallpaper/cars/Pagani/Pagani_Zonda_A1.jpg So, ok, it's worth something like 20+ CS500's At least you get paint and a windscreen! And a pair of the Pope's shoes :o) AndyC "rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Caterham Superlight R500 > Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record > > "The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for > speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing > the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds." > > "Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two > non-road going race-prep'd cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a > 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car." > > Pictures: > > http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/r500-1024-2.jpg > http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/r500-1024-4.jpg > > Links: > > http://www.caterham.co.uk > http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/R500main.htm > > ENGINE: > > R500: 1.8 litre XPower K Series. > 16 valve DOHC > Max Power: 230 bhp @ 8600 rpm > Max torque: 155 lbsft @ 7200 rpm > 0-60 mph: 3.4 secs > Max speed:150 mph > > > Caterham Superlight - A road car yearning to be let loose on the track > > The Caterham Superlight has been designed to achieve the best possible > dynamic package from the already competent Caterham Roadsport. This > has been achieved by reducing the weight to a bare minimum whilst > packaging the car with as many performance-enhancing options as > possible. > > Although the car is supplied fully road legal, this unique model > contains many track options. The stripped out interior with carbon > fibre dashboard, Caterham four point race harness, Caterham composite > race bucket seats and wind deflector in lieu of windscreen are fitted > as standard. > > Standard equipment includes: > > Competition specification engine > > Carbon dashboard > > Caterham 6 speed gearbox > > Ventilated front discs with four pot calipers > > de Dion competition derived rear suspension > > Adjustable rear anti-roll bar > > Wide track and bespoke road tyres > > The complete package gives this car a total kerb weight of only 485 > kgs, which is 65 kgs lighter than the standard Roadsport model. (R500 > in standard form weighs in at 465 kgs). If you want to personalise > your car, there is a list of options to add to your specifications and > customers requiring the added practicality of windscreen and full > weather equipment can of course specify these. > > > R500 > 1.8 litre 230bhp K-Series power unit > 13" Magnesium wheels with Avon CR500 tyres > Carbon pack including nose, wings and wing protectors > Magnesium upgrade pack including sump, bell housing and oil tower > Stack instrumentation > Limited slip differential > Carbon nose and wings > > > * Superlight R500 Model > ============================================= > > http://www.motorcities.com/contents/02IPE385019579.html > > 2002 Caterham Superlight R500 > - Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record > > � Caterham > England, United Kingdom > Caterham 4th September 2002 > > Caterham Speeds then Stops to New World Record > > The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for > speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing > the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds. > > The previous record time of 11.50 seconds had been set in 1999, in a > MacLaren F1 LM car, specifically shod in bespoke race tyres. > > The 0-100-0 exercise, designed to separate the men from the boys when > it comes to fast cars, was conducted a fortnight ago at Bruntingthorpe > airfield. It was part of a series of tests conducted annually by the > editorial team from Autocar Magazine. > > Test co-ordinator, Steve Sutcliffe commented: 'In our experience > 0-100-0 is the defining test of what is - and what isn't - a genuinely > rapid road car. Ideally your entrant will be light, very powerful, > have great traction, a snappy gear change, well laid-out pedals and, > most importantly of all maybe, a massive - and friendly to use- set of > stoppers. > > 'The Caterham R500 is the greatest expression of straight-line speed > merged with awesome braking ability.' > > Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two > non-road going race-prep'd cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a > 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car. > > Amongst the considerable scalps claimed by the British sportscar maker > were the Pagani C12 S (11.84 seconds), the Porsche 911 Turbo (13.02 > seconds) and the Lamborghini Murcielago (13.90 seconds). > > Caterham's Managing Director, Simon Nearn, was delighted with the > result: 'When we created the R500, we spared nothing in our > determination to reduce weight and then packed all the performance > into it we could. We designed it specifically to go fast and stop > fast. I am not surprised we finished top of the pile!' > > The complete test results are in the 25 September edition of Autocar. > > The Caterham Superlight R500 is priced at �36,200. Visit > www.caterham.co.uk for further details. > > >

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> Caterham Superlight R500 > Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record > > "The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for > speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing > the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds." > > "Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two > non-road going race-prep'd cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a > 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car."

The R500 has been around for ages. I remember it in evos' ePR tests back in early-mid 2001, which had a 0-100-0 test, along with TED (time exposed to danger - simulated lorry passing), slalom (where it got trounced by the Elise and it's superior handling), roundabout tests and lap times. It won, of course, as the only thing that beat it on anything was the Elise in handling tests, and even the Porsche 911 Turbo couldn't *quite* keep up (although it ran it close on most of the tests). Remember that the R500 has no ABS for 0-100-0 times, too. And you can build it yourself...

Hehe; it's 75MB, but if you want a ride in one around the 'Ring, try: http://www.speedyseven.com/Videos%20Nurburgring.htm SB "Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<[email hidden]>...

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> > Caterham Superlight R500 > > Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record > > > > "The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for > > speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing > > the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds." > > > > "Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two > > non-road going race-prep'd cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a > > 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car." > > The R500 has been around for ages. I remember it in evos' ePR tests > back in early-mid 2001, which had a 0-100-0 test, along with TED (time > exposed to danger - simulated lorry passing), slalom (where it got > trounced by the Elise and it's superior handling), roundabout tests > and lap times. It won, of course, as the only thing that beat it on > anything was the Elise in handling tests, and even the Porsche 911 > Turbo couldn't *quite* keep up (although it ran it close on most of > the tests). > > Remember that the R500 has no ABS for 0-100-0 times, too. And you can > build it yourself...

On 11 Nov 2002 04:47:44 -0800, [email hidden] (Nick) wrote:

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>rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... >> Caterham Superlight R500 >> Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record >> >> "The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for >> speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing >> the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds." >> >> "Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two >> non-road going race-prep'd cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a >> 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car." > >The R500 has been around for ages. I remember it in evos' ePR tests >back in early-mid 2001, which had a 0-100-0 test, along with TED (time >exposed to danger - simulated lorry passing), slalom (where it got >trounced by the Elise and it's superior handling), roundabout tests >and lap times. It won, of course, as the only thing that beat it on >anything was the Elise in handling tests, and even the Porsche 911 >Turbo couldn't *quite* keep up (although it ran it close on most of >the tests). > >Remember that the R500 has no ABS for 0-100-0 times, too. And you can >build it yourself...

Check out this site for some very nice movies of an R500 at Spa, Donnington, etc.. There's even one movie comparing a lap at Spa of an R500 to Coulthard's F1 (the F1 won) hehe... Very, very nice movies. http://www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/stage_default.htm

On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:43:57 -0500, "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hehe; it's 75MB, but if you want a ride in one around the 'Ring, try: > >http://www.speedyseven.com/Videos%20Nurburgring.htm > GREAT site. Thanks for the link!

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>SB > >"Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:<[email hidden]>... >> > Caterham Superlight R500 >> > Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record >> > >> > "The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for >> > speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing >> > the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds." >> > >> > "Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two >> > non-road going race-prep'd cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a >> > 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car." >> >> The R500 has been around for ages. I remember it in evos' ePR tests >> back in early-mid 2001, which had a 0-100-0 test, along with TED (time >> exposed to danger - simulated lorry passing), slalom (where it got >> trounced by the Elise and it's superior handling), roundabout tests >> and lap times. It won, of course, as the only thing that beat it on >> anything was the Elise in handling tests, and even the Porsche 911 >> Turbo couldn't *quite* keep up (although it ran it close on most of >> the tests). >> >> Remember that the R500 has no ABS for 0-100-0 times, too. And you can >> build it yourself... >

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> > Caterham Superlight R500 > Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record > > "The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for > speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing > the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds." > > "Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two > non-road going race-prep'd cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a > 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car." > > Pictures: > > http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/r500-1024-2.jpg > http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/r500-1024-4.jpg >

Wow! Spent awhile at Caterhams website last night and a bit this morning. Maybe in 5 or 10 years, I too can get one of these. Not the 500, one of their lesser cars would be just fine with me... though I think I'd add a cover for the weather. That first image is my new wallpaper. Brian

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> "rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Caterham Superlight R500 > > Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record > > > > "The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for > > speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing > > the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds." > > > > "Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two > > non-road going race-prep'd cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a > > 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car." > > > > Pictures: > > > > http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/r500-1024-2.jpg > > http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/r500-1024-4.jpg > > > Wow! Spent awhile at Caterhams website last night and a bit this morning. > Maybe in 5 or 10 years, I too can get one of these. Not the 500, one of > their lesser cars would be just fine with me... though I think I'd add a > cover for the weather. That first image is my new wallpaper.

Why wait? You could buy one now. http://www.m-keenan.freeserve.co.uk/ Andy -- Free Wireless Internet? http://consume.andylaurence.co.uk - updated today NB: Spamtrap, andy at andylaurence dot co dot uk

ive driven alot of cars, but the caterham was the worst behaved car ive ever had the pleasure of experiencing. just no grip on the rears at all. pez "rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Caterham Superlight R500 > Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record > > "The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for > speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing > the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds." > > "Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two > non-road going race-prep'd cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a > 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car." > > Pictures: > > http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/r500-1024-2.jpg > http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/r500-1024-4.jpg > > Links: > > http://www.caterham.co.uk > http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/R500main.htm > > ENGINE: > > R500: 1.8 litre XPower K Series. > 16 valve DOHC > Max Power: 230 bhp @ 8600 rpm > Max torque: 155 lbsft @ 7200 rpm > 0-60 mph: 3.4 secs > Max speed:150 mph > > > Caterham Superlight - A road car yearning to be let loose on the track > > The Caterham Superlight has been designed to achieve the best possible > dynamic package from the already competent Caterham Roadsport. This > has been achieved by reducing the weight to a bare minimum whilst > packaging the car with as many performance-enhancing options as > possible. > > Although the car is supplied fully road legal, this unique model > contains many track options. The stripped out interior with carbon > fibre dashboard, Caterham four point race harness, Caterham composite > race bucket seats and wind deflector in lieu of windscreen are fitted > as standard. > > Standard equipment includes: > > Competition specification engine > > Carbon dashboard > > Caterham 6 speed gearbox > > Ventilated front discs with four pot calipers > > de Dion competition derived rear suspension > > Adjustable rear anti-roll bar > > Wide track and bespoke road tyres > > The complete package gives this car a total kerb weight of only 485 > kgs, which is 65 kgs lighter than the standard Roadsport model. (R500 > in standard form weighs in at 465 kgs). If you want to personalise > your car, there is a list of options to add to your specifications and > customers requiring the added practicality of windscreen and full > weather equipment can of course specify these. > > > R500 > 1.8 litre 230bhp K-Series power unit > 13" Magnesium wheels with Avon CR500 tyres > Carbon pack including nose, wings and wing protectors > Magnesium upgrade pack including sump, bell housing and oil tower > Stack instrumentation > Limited slip differential > Carbon nose and wings > > > * Superlight R500 Model > ============================================= > > http://www.motorcities.com/contents/02IPE385019579.html > > 2002 Caterham Superlight R500 > - Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record > > � Caterham > England, United Kingdom > Caterham 4th September 2002 > > Caterham Speeds then Stops to New World Record > > The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for > speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing > the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds. > > The previous record time of 11.50 seconds had been set in 1999, in a > MacLaren F1 LM car, specifically shod in bespoke race tyres. > > The 0-100-0 exercise, designed to separate the men from the boys when > it comes to fast cars, was conducted a fortnight ago at Bruntingthorpe > airfield. It was part of a series of tests conducted annually by the > editorial team from Autocar Magazine. > > Test co-ordinator, Steve Sutcliffe commented: 'In our experience > 0-100-0 is the defining test of what is - and what isn't - a genuinely > rapid road car. Ideally your entrant will be light, very powerful, > have great traction, a snappy gear change, well laid-out pedals and, > most importantly of all maybe, a massive - and friendly to use- set of > stoppers. > > 'The Caterham R500 is the greatest expression of straight-line speed > merged with awesome braking ability.' > > Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two > non-road going race-prep'd cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a > 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car. > > Amongst the considerable scalps claimed by the British sportscar maker > were the Pagani C12 S (11.84 seconds), the Porsche 911 Turbo (13.02 > seconds) and the Lamborghini Murcielago (13.90 seconds). > > Caterham's Managing Director, Simon Nearn, was delighted with the > result: 'When we created the R500, we spared nothing in our > determination to reduce weight and then packed all the performance > into it we could. We designed it specifically to go fast and stop > fast. I am not surprised we finished top of the pile!' > > The complete test results are in the 25 September edition of Autocar. > > The Caterham Superlight R500 is priced at �36,200. Visit > www.caterham.co.uk for further details. > > >

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> Caterham Superlight R500 > Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record > > "The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for > speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing > the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds." > > "Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two > non-road going race-prep'd cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a > 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car."

<snip> Impressive stats, but I've always been more concerned about the look and style of the cars I drive. I'm not big on 'garage' cars, as such. For years i've been yearning over a 1982 Trans Am KITT conversion, but since last week (watching the Jame's Bond trailer) its the new Austin Martin. [Imagine Homer Simpson drooling over chocolate, tongue out the side of his mouth - that's me right now]

Austin ? AUSTIN ?? It's Aston ! Wow, that's the scariest thing I've read in a long time, what next an Aston Allegro ? ;) People in the UK will probably have tried to forget ever seeing an Allegro <G> -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> "45472" <[email hidden]> wrote > <snip> > > Impressive stats, but I've always been more concerned about the look > and style of the cars I drive. I'm not big on 'garage' cars, as such. > For years i've been yearning over a 1982 Trans Am KITT conversion, but > since last week (watching the Jame's Bond trailer) its the new Austin > Martin. > > [Imagine Homer Simpson drooling over chocolate, tongue out the side of > his mouth - that's me right now]

"Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aqou34$n5u$[email hidden]... > Austin ? AUSTIN ?? > > It's Aston ! > > Wow, that's the scariest thing I've read in a long time, what next anAston

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> Allegro ? ;) > People in the UK will probably have tried to forget ever seeing an Allegro > <G> > > -- > > Ian P > <email invalid due to spam>

Aren't all things British Austin? Austin Powers, Austin Healy, Auston Martin, British Austin Motor Cars, Austin Bentley's, M Austin G's, Tri Austin umphs, VAustinxahl's. dave henrie

The British are trying very hard indeed to lose all reference to anything called Austin, Leyland, BML or Rover. We nearly passed off Rover to BMW but the Germans wised up and gave it us back. It's currently under auction at about 25 pence ;) To see just how badly we're trying to forget the Allegro, just take a look here http://website.lineone.net/~austinallegro/gallery.htm <-- NOT A PRETTY SIGHT !! They couldn't even make a round steering wheel ;) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qrUz9.270$V16.541@rwcrnsc54... > > "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aqou34$n5u$[email hidden]... > > Austin ? AUSTIN ?? > > > > It's Aston ! > > > > Wow, that's the scariest thing I've read in a long time, what next an > Aston > > Allegro ? ;) > > People in the UK will probably have tried to forget ever seeing an Allegro > > <G> > > > > -- > > > > Ian P > > <email invalid due to spam> > > Aren't all things British Austin? Austin Powers, Austin Healy, Auston > Martin, British Austin Motor Cars, Austin Bentley's, M Austin G's, Tri > Austin umphs, VAustinxahl's. > dave henrie > >

"Alex 'pez' Porazinski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aqooap$d3n$[email hidden]... > ive driven alot of cars, but the caterham was the worst behaved car iveever > had the pleasure of experiencing. just no grip on the rears at all. > > pez > No grip on the rears? How does it get to 100 mph in 9 seconds then? Some race schools use Caterhams (or equivalents) with race tyres on the front and crappy old overinflated road tyres on the back to teach car control, maybe it was one of those you drove? :0)

"Jim Seamus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kjXz9.5714$[email hidden]... > Some race schools use Caterhams (or equivalents) with race tyres on the > front and crappy old overinflated road tyres on the back to teach car > control, maybe it was one of those you drove? :0) Really? That _would_ make it handle like a pig ;-) Why not just use crappy tyres on all four corners if you want to learn car control? Malc.

On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:10:50 +0000 (UTC), "Alex 'pez' Porazinski" <[email hidden]> wrote: >ive driven alot of cars, but the caterham was the worst behaved car ive ever >had the pleasure of experiencing. just no grip on the rears at all. > >pez > Here's a couple of sites with several movies showing the Caterham handles pretty well. Nurburgring (old), Donnington, Brands Hatch, Imola, etc. Actually, it's *really* quick for a streetable car .. http://www.speedyseven.com http://www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/stage_default.htm

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>"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> Caterham Superlight R500 >> Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record >> >> "The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for >> speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing >> the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds." >> >> "Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two >> non-road going race-prep'd cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a >> 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car." >> >> Pictures: >> >> http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/r500-1024-2.jpg >> http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/r500-1024-4.jpg >> >> Links: >> >> http://www.caterham.co.uk >> http://www.stevecarter.com/R500/R500main.htm >> >> ENGINE: >> >> R500: 1.8 litre XPower K Series. >> 16 valve DOHC >> Max Power: 230 bhp @ 8600 rpm >> Max torque: 155 lbsft @ 7200 rpm >> 0-60 mph: 3.4 secs >> Max speed:150 mph >> >> >> Caterham Superlight - A road car yearning to be let loose on the track >> >> The Caterham Superlight has been designed to achieve the best possible >> dynamic package from the already competent Caterham Roadsport. This >> has been achieved by reducing the weight to a bare minimum whilst >> packaging the car with as many performance-enhancing options as >> possible. >> >> Although the car is supplied fully road legal, this unique model >> contains many track options. The stripped out interior with carbon >> fibre dashboard, Caterham four point race harness, Caterham composite >> race bucket seats and wind deflector in lieu of windscreen are fitted >> as standard. >> >> Standard equipment includes: >> >> Competition specification engine >> >> Carbon dashboard >> >> Caterham 6 speed gearbox >> >> Ventilated front discs with four pot calipers >> >> de Dion competition derived rear suspension >> >> Adjustable rear anti-roll bar >> >> Wide track and bespoke road tyres >> >> The complete package gives this car a total kerb weight of only 485 >> kgs, which is 65 kgs lighter than the standard Roadsport model. (R500 >> in standard form weighs in at 465 kgs). If you want to personalise >> your car, there is a list of options to add to your specifications and >> customers requiring the added practicality of windscreen and full >> weather equipment can of course specify these. >> >> >> R500 >> 1.8 litre 230bhp K-Series power unit >> 13" Magnesium wheels with Avon CR500 tyres >> Carbon pack including nose, wings and wing protectors >> Magnesium upgrade pack including sump, bell housing and oil tower >> Stack instrumentation >> Limited slip differential >> Carbon nose and wings >> >> >> * Superlight R500 Model >> ============================================= >> >> http://www.motorcities.com/contents/02IPE385019579.html >> >> 2002 Caterham Superlight R500 >> - Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record >> >> � Caterham >> England, United Kingdom >> Caterham 4th September 2002 >> >> Caterham Speeds then Stops to New World Record >> >> The Caterham Superlight R500 has broken the world road car record for >> speeding from standing to 100mph and then back to standing, completing >> the test in an astounding 11.44 seconds. >> >> The previous record time of 11.50 seconds had been set in 1999, in a >> MacLaren F1 LM car, specifically shod in bespoke race tyres. >> >> The 0-100-0 exercise, designed to separate the men from the boys when >> it comes to fast cars, was conducted a fortnight ago at Bruntingthorpe >> airfield. It was part of a series of tests conducted annually by the >> editorial team from Autocar Magazine. >> >> Test co-ordinator, Steve Sutcliffe commented: 'In our experience >> 0-100-0 is the defining test of what is - and what isn't - a genuinely >> rapid road car. Ideally your entrant will be light, very powerful, >> have great traction, a snappy gear change, well laid-out pedals and, >> most importantly of all maybe, a massive - and friendly to use- set of >> stoppers. >> >> 'The Caterham R500 is the greatest expression of straight-line speed >> merged with awesome braking ability.' >> >> Overall, the R500 finished third in the test, beaten only by two >> non-road going race-prep'd cars the Jaguar R3 Formula 1 car and a >> 477bhp Gould Cosworth Hillclimb car. >> >> Amongst the considerable scalps claimed by the British sportscar maker >> were the Pagani C12 S (11.84 seconds), the Porsche 911 Turbo (13.02 >> seconds) and the Lamborghini Murcielago (13.90 seconds). >> >> Caterham's Managing Director, Simon Nearn, was delighted with the >> result: 'When we created the R500, we spared nothing in our >> determination to reduce weight and then packed all the performance >> into it we could. We designed it specifically to go fast and stop >> fast. I am not surprised we finished top of the pile!' >> >> The complete test results are in the 25 September edition of Autocar. >> >> The Caterham Superlight R500 is priced at �36,200. Visit >> www.caterham.co.uk for further details. >> >> >> >

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> > Here's a couple of sites with several movies showing the Caterham handles > pretty well. Nurburgring (old), Donnington, Brands Hatch, Imola, etc. > Actually, it's *really* quick for a streetable car .. > > http://www.speedyseven.com > http://www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/stage_default.htm >

Is that the Austin Caterham? dave henrie :)

"rrevved" Is that the Austin Caterham? dave henrie :)

"Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hehe; it's 75MB, but if you want a ride in one around the 'Ring, try: > > http://www.speedyseven.com/Videos%20Nurburgring.htm > > SB >Excellent! Does anyone get static in the left speaker? Other than that, very enjoyable to watch. Speaking of the 'ring... what sort of rules are there for people who want to drive around? Do they just let any Joe with a license on the track, or what? It looked like the driver in this vid was careful to only pass on the straight sections and only when it was clear the slower car was letting him by. Brian

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> The British are trying very hard indeed to lose all reference to anything > called Austin, Leyland, BML or Rover. > We nearly passed off Rover to BMW but the Germans wised up and gave it us > back. It's currently under auction at about 25 pence ;) > > To see just how badly we're trying to forget the Allegro, just take a look > here http://website.lineone.net/~austinallegro/gallery.htm <-- NOT A

PRETTY > SIGHT !! They couldn't even make a round steering wheel ;) > Almost as good as the original Porsche 924 "wedge of death" wheel. Lacking sufficient thigh room, the geniuses at Porsche-VW made an eccentric wheel. Great for going straight ahead, but when things got exciting and you dialed in the lock, it wedged against your thighs. Dohhh! The 944 redesign of the interior was a welcome change. Stephen

"Brian Short" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > Excellent! Does anyone get static in the left speaker? Other than that, > very enjoyable to watch. > > Speaking of the 'ring... what sort of rules are there for people who wantto > drive around? Do they just let any Joe with a license on the track, or > what? It looked like the driver in this vid was careful to only pass onthe > straight sections and only when it was clear the slower car was lettinghim > by. > > Brian > > It's a few quid to do it, but not too expensive, but anyone can rock up on any particular day that it's not closed (for racing or rented out to a manufacturer etc) and do a lap. I believe you can even get a day pass for as many laps as you like. The things to remember are: 1. There's all sorts on there from buses (tourists) to GT cars to bikes to Trevor in his knackered escort going for gold (probably the most dangerous!). 2. It's not a video game, people are killed on the circuit every year (normally bikers though). 3. There's no emergency services. If you fly off into the trees, it'll be a while before you're found. 4. Thrashing the t*ts off your car for a few laps could kill it, and you've still got to get home. (think brakes and clutch). 5. You're not insured, it's a race track. Having said this, I'll be there at some point next year!!! AndyC

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote > Is that the Austin Caterham? > > dave henrie :) > > Pretty much ... They use a Rover engine :) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam>

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:19:58 -0000, "AndyC" <[email hidden]> wrote: >4. Thrashing the t*ts off your car for a few laps could kill it, and you've >still got to get home. (think brakes and clutch). A tip is to bring a set of brakepads. I had to use the handbrake on the autobahn on the way home while searching for a volvo dealership to get a set of front pads!! Interesting experience... :) Cost a small fortune too(110�)... >5. You're not insured, it's a race track. > AFAIK, it actually counts as public road, so your insurance should or rather could cover it. At least it counted as public road 10 years ago, could have changed since though. A biker mag. here in Sweden used to have 'Ring-articles in every issue back then, and they explicitly said that your road-going insurance policy is valid. Well, swedish policy that is, YMMV. Better read the fine print... Like I said a lot could have changed in 10 years.

'eggshells under the right foot' ;) pez "Jim Seamus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kjXz9.5714$[email hidden]...

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> > "Alex 'pez' Porazinski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aqooap$d3n$[email hidden]... > > ive driven alot of cars, but the caterham was the worst behaved car ive > ever > > had the pleasure of experiencing. just no grip on the rears at all. > > > > pez > > > > No grip on the rears? How does it get to 100 mph in 9 seconds then? > > Some race schools use Caterhams (or equivalents) with race tyres on the > front and crappy old overinflated road tyres on the back to teach car > control, maybe it was one of those you drove? :0) > >

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:17:15 +0000 (UTC), "Alex 'pez' Porazinski" <[email hidden]> wrote: >'eggshells under the right foot' > >;) Hehe.. well, it's true. I raced a lot of SCCA in my earlier years, and among my rides was my Lotus Eleven Le Mans. My SCCA driving school lead instructor, at Road Atlanta, in about 1970 when I had the Lotus, was Peter Revson (F1/Indy/CanAm). 'Eggshell under the right foot' were the exact words he used in our instruction, and my Lotus's performance would be considered poor compared to the R500 Caterham. I had 130hp in an 800 lb car. The R500 is 230 hp in a 1000 lb car. To put that in perspective, if these cars were Corvettes weighing 3000 lbs, the horsepower required to achieve the same power/weight ratio would be 500+ horsepower and 700+ horsepower, repectively. These are very light, powerful cars, and they get a little .. frisky. The braking performance is incredible as well. As for the handling, well it's a Lotus .. Both my old Lotus and the R500 are front-engined, DeDion rear suspension cars. My Lotus had very skinny tires compared to the good tires on the Caterhams. Back in the day, the Lotus Super 7's (now Caterham) were so fast that even after rule changes that bumped them up to the top class of the Production racing category in Britain where they raced against far more powerful Porsche 911's, Cobras, production Ferraris, Jags, Corvettes, Astons etc., the RAC (Royal Automotive Club) finally BANNED the Super 7's from further participation in Production Car racing. They simply crushed any and all production car competition that was placed against them. It may still be that way in Europe, I don't know. They are Q-U-I-C-K. I would REALLY like to own an R500, even as old as I am now. DAMN!!!

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>"Jim Seamus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:kjXz9.5714$[email hidden]... >> >> "Alex 'pez' Porazinski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:aqooap$d3n$[email hidden]... >> > ive driven alot of cars, but the caterham was the worst behaved car ive >> ever >> > had the pleasure of experiencing. just no grip on the rears at all. >> > >> > pez >> > >> >> No grip on the rears? How does it get to 100 mph in 9 seconds then? >> >> Some race schools use Caterhams (or equivalents) with race tyres on the >> front and crappy old overinflated road tyres on the back to teach car >> control, maybe it was one of those you drove? :0) >> >> >

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:19:58 -0000, "AndyC" <[email hidden]> wrote: >5. You're not insured, it's a race track. Are you sure about this? I thought it was public road, with normal insurance policies.. Andre >Having said this, I'll be there at some point next year!!! > >AndyC > >

"Andre Warringa" wrote... > >5. You're not insured, it's a race track. > > Are you sure about this? I thought it was public > road, with normal insurance policies.. Be that as it may, Andre, ADAC will not come to your aid on the track itself, even if you have European wide breakdown insurance. I checked. Jan. =---

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> On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:19:58 -0000, "AndyC" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > >5. You're not insured, it's a race track. > > Are you sure about this? I thought it was public road, with normal > insurance policies.. > > Andre > > >Having said this, I'll be there at some point next year!!! > > > >AndyC > > > >

I stand (well sit at my desk) corrected!! :o) AndyC

Any automatic transmission available? Cya JensSchumi On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:14:29 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Caterham Superlight R500 >Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record <snip> --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95

And still, it's no GPL <g> JensSchumi On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:10:50 +0000 (UTC), "Alex 'pez' Porazinski" <[email hidden]> wrote: >ive driven alot of cars, but the caterham was the worst behaved car ive ever >had the pleasure of experiencing. just no grip on the rears at all. > >pez --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95

I still want this car... but I'd also like a Lotus Elise too :) Too bad they aren't street legal. I wonder if I could get some specs and the building manual for the Caterham... a scale RC model would be fun. Brian

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> I still want this car... but I'd also like a Lotus Elise too :) Too bad > they aren't street legal. > > I wonder if I could get some specs and the building manual for the > Caterham... a scale RC model would be fun. > > Brian >

Not sure what country you're in, but over here in Blighty they're legal, or can be made so with parts from Caterham if you've bought a track version. And have you seen the size of these things, couldn't scale it down much more let alone make it RC ;o) AndyC

"Brian Short" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aqv4qv$rn0$[email hidden]... > I still want this car... but I'd also like a Lotus Elise too :) Too bad > they aren't street legal. The Elise is a road car, as are most Caterhams. You can get them on the road in the US too. Where are you? > I wonder if I could get some specs and the building manual for the > Caterham... a scale RC model would be fun. Ask them. You can buy build manuals. You can also buy build manuals for most kit cars. Andy -- Internet in a portaloo? http://consume.andylaurence.co.uk

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> Any automatic transmission available? > > Cya > JensSchumi > > > On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:14:29 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Caterham Superlight R500 > >Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record > <snip> > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ > > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

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> "Brian Short" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aqv4qv$rn0$[email hidden]... > > I still want this car... but I'd also like a Lotus Elise too :) Too bad > > they aren't street legal. > > > > I wonder if I could get some specs and the building manual for the > > Caterham... a scale RC model would be fun. > > > > Brian > > > > Not sure what country you're in, but over here in Blighty they're legal,

or > can be made so with parts from Caterham if you've bought a track version. > And have you seen the size of these things, couldn't scale it down muchmore > let alone make it RC ;o) >I'm in the U.S... At the Lotus website, all the Elise stuff I saw said "track only", and I was talking to a guy on an internet forum who is on the list to get an Elise, and he said the Sport 190 wasn't street legal... I guess it's just the Sport 190 then? I'm too tall for an Elise anyway :( Brian

"JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Any automatic transmission available? Yes, but god knows why you'd want to ruin it like that?! Andy -- Internet on the bus? http://consume.andylaurence.co.uk

"Brian Short" wrote... > <snip> > I'm too tall for an Elise anyway :( That's quite ironic... lol ;-) Jan. =---

I want a Taurus Station Wagon. Yes, I know that's pathetic, but the dogs are demanding and my Taurus Sedan doesn't make them happy :) What I REALLY want is the Mercedes/AMG. The new one. AMG-55 or something like that. But unless one of the Golden's can also start poopin' golden bricks, it ain't gonna happen :) -Larry "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Any automatic transmission available? > > Cya > JensSchumi > > > On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:14:29 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Caterham Superlight R500 > >Bests McLaren F1 in 0-100-0 MPH World Record > <snip> > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ > > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 00:11:13 GMT, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"Andre Warringa" wrote... >> >5. You're not insured, it's a race track. >> >> Are you sure about this? I thought it was public >> road, with normal insurance policies.. > >Be that as it may, Andre, ADAC will not come to your aid on the track >itself, even if you have European wide breakdown insurance. I checked. > >Jan. >=---

I can understand that, but is my car insured for damage (sp?) when I wreck it on the Ring? I have an all risk insurance. I allways had a car from my company, but now I have my own car, and suddenly I find this insurance thingy very important :) Andre

It's a public road, a 100 kph speed-limit applies (no joke) Also, I once encountered a police speed trap somewhere at Adenauer Forst. And *NO*, I'm not drunk and not on drugs. Cya JensSchumi BTW: Insurances also don't pay for accidents under race-like conditions, so they will assume that you were running your vehicle a bit aehm... pushy... On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:55:30 +0100, Magnus Svensson <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >AFAIK, it actually counts as public road, so your insurance should or >rather could cover it. At least it counted as public road 10 years >ago, could have changed since though. A biker mag. here in Sweden used >to have 'Ring-articles in every issue back then, and they explicitly >said that your road-going insurance policy is valid. Well, swedish >policy that is, YMMV. Better read the fine print... Like I said a lot >could have changed in 10 years. >

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Honest Mr. Insurance man...we were re-tracing the historical Battle of the Buldge route and got lost on some 'Northern' road...we didn't know it was a racetrack.... dave henrie "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> It's a public road, > a 100 kph speed-limit applies (no joke) > Also, I once encountered a police speed trap somewhere at Adenauer Forst. > > And *NO*, I'm not drunk and not on drugs. > > Cya > JensSchumi > > BTW: Insurances also don't pay for accidents under race-like conditions,

so they > will assume that you were running your vehicle a bit aehm... pushy... > > On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:55:30 +0100, Magnus Svensson<[email hidden]>

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> wrote: > > > >AFAIK, it actually counts as public road, so your insurance should or > >rather could cover it. At least it counted as public road 10 years > >ago, could have changed since though. A biker mag. here in Sweden used > >to have 'Ring-articles in every issue back then, and they explicitly > >said that your road-going insurance policy is valid. Well, swedish > >policy that is, YMMV. Better read the fine print... Like I said a lot > >could have changed in 10 years. > > > > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ > > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

Gotcha <vbg> JensSchumi On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:03:07 -0000, "Mike Davison" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>What?!?!?!?!?!? > >"JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Any automatic transmission available? >> >> Cya >> JensSchumi >>

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One more <hehe> JensSchumi On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:00:21 -0000, "Andy Laurence" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Any automatic transmission available? > >Yes, but god knows why you'd want to ruin it like that?! > >Andy

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Um, I thought all the elises were streeet legal, but then I'm not overly informed, so I'll take what you say! :o) "Brian Short" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ar0kfl$jr1$[email hidden]... > > "AndyC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aqvn7j$8oa$[email hidden]... > > "Brian Short" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:aqv4qv$rn0$[email hidden]... > > > I still want this car... but I'd also like a Lotus Elise too :) Toobad

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> > > they aren't street legal. > > > > > > I wonder if I could get some specs and the building manual for the > > > Caterham... a scale RC model would be fun. > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > Not sure what country you're in, but over here in Blighty they're legal, > or > > can be made so with parts from Caterham if you've bought a track

version. > > And have you seen the size of these things, couldn't scale it down much > more > > let alone make it RC ;o) > > > I'm in the U.S... At the Lotus website, all the Elise stuff I saw said > "track only", and I was talking to a guy on an internet forum who is onthe

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> list to get an Elise, and he said the Sport 190 wasn't street legal... I > guess it's just the Sport 190 then? > I'm too tall for an Elise anyway :( > > Brian > >

took your time... (B***** foreigners! <g>) "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Gotcha <vbg> > > JensSchumi > > On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:03:07 -0000, "Mike Davison" <[email hidden]>wrote:

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> > >What?!?!?!?!?!? > > > >"JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> Any automatic transmission available? > >> > >> Cya > >> JensSchumi > >> > > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ > > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

took your time... (B***** foreigners! <g>)

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> Gotcha <vbg> > JensSchumi > >What?!?!?!?!?!? > >> Any automatic transmission available? > >> Cya > >> JensSchumi > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

So the DM16 you paid you considered as admission fee to the historical site of "Nurburg castle, endless gardens of tarmack"? <grin> JensSchumi On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:48:01 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Honest Mr. Insurance man...we were re-tracing the historical Battle of the >Buldge route and got lost on some 'Northern' road...we didn't know it was a >racetrack.... > >dave henrie > >

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