Every now and then a manufacturer comes out with a product that just leaves
the competition scratching their head and wondering what they are going to
do about it. I figure this has happened at least twice this year:
1. The ATI Radeon 9700 Pro. I just wish I could validate the need to
upgrade to one.
2. The new Sony DRU-500A CD/DVD Recorder.
I just picked up one of these new Sony's yesterday at CompUSA. They were
released on Friday, October 11th so I was a bit suprised to see them have
them in stock so soon (though they didn't have a bunch). I think this drive
is going to be hard to keep on the shelf.
If you haven't heard of it, the Sony DRU-500A is the first drive on the
market that is basically future and format proof. It's the first truly
safe-purchase DVD Recorder made considering all the political bickering
going on concerning the DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW format wars. Microsoft
tossing it's hat into the DVD+R/RW ring for approval, even though it's the
least compatible and least mature of the two, only worsened the situation.
Why? Because the new Sony does _everything_.
CDR. CDRW. DVD-R. DVD-RW. DVD+R. DVD+RW. VCD. Etc...
The only thing I'm not sure about is Mt. Raineer... I'll have to re-check
the specs for that one. But, since that's a packet-writing format I'll
never use it (packet writing is a pain in the ass).
The first thing I did was back up my server. I used some Apple DVD-R discs
I picked up for my iMac. They worked perfectly, and it took five 4.7GB
DVD-R's to back up the important stuff I would need to restore quickly in
case of a server drive failure.
Each 4.7GB disc took approximately 30 minutes to burn at DVD-R 2x speed.
DVD writing speed is different from CDR speed. DVD-R 2x is equivelent to
just over 2700kb/sec. CDR 2x is 300kb/sec.
I don't much care for the writing software that came with it. RecordNow 4.5
is ok for beginners, but RecordNow Max is, IMHO, what they should have
packaged with the drive. RecordNow Max is actually pretty nice.
Unfortunately, Veritas (the writer of RecordNow/RecordNow Max) decided to
take on Stomp as it's OEM partner for these products, and that's the only
place you can get them. There is no version 4.5 of RecordNow Max, and the
current 4.1 version of Max does not support the new Sony (odd, yes). My
experience with Stomp's ability to keep the software up to date for new
recorders and there tech support has been dismal.
Fear not. The newly released version of Nero Burning Rom 5.5.8.14 supports
the Sony nicely, and since I also own Nero full compatibility was just a
download away.
The drive also comes with other software for movie editing and DVD-Movie
mastering, but I haven't used it yet. MyDVD is the name of the DVD
Mastering Software it comes with.
Here's the best part!
The drive is only $349. At that price they are not only providing a drive
that covers all formats in question, read AND write, but they are
under-cutting the retail price of most other single-format drives on the
market.
Killer stuff :)
-Larry
Typo Correction...
The newly released version of Nero is 5.5.9.14.
www.ahead.de
-Larry
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Every now and then a manufacturer comes out with a product that justleaves
drive
discs
4.5
supports
Quoted text (10 lines)
> the competition scratching their head and wondering what they are going to > do about it. I figure this has happened at least twice this year: > > 1. The ATI Radeon 9700 Pro. I just wish I could validate the need to > upgrade to one. > 2. The new Sony DRU-500A CD/DVD Recorder. > > I just picked up one of these new Sony's yesterday at CompUSA. They were > released on Friday, October 11th so I was a bit suprised to see them have > them in stock so soon (though they didn't have a bunch). I think thisQuoted text (18 lines)
> is going to be hard to keep on the shelf. > > If you haven't heard of it, the Sony DRU-500A is the first drive on the > market that is basically future and format proof. It's the first truly > safe-purchase DVD Recorder made considering all the political bickering > going on concerning the DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW format wars. Microsoft > tossing it's hat into the DVD+R/RW ring for approval, even though it's the > least compatible and least mature of the two, only worsened the situation. > > Why? Because the new Sony does _everything_. > > CDR. CDRW. DVD-R. DVD-RW. DVD+R. DVD+RW. VCD. Etc... > > The only thing I'm not sure about is Mt. Raineer... I'll have to re-check > the specs for that one. But, since that's a packet-writing format I'll > never use it (packet writing is a pain in the ass). > > The first thing I did was back up my server. I used some Apple DVD-RQuoted text (10 lines)
> I picked up for my iMac. They worked perfectly, and it took five 4.7GB > DVD-R's to back up the important stuff I would need to restore quickly in > case of a server drive failure. > > Each 4.7GB disc took approximately 30 minutes to burn at DVD-R 2x speed. > > DVD writing speed is different from CDR speed. DVD-R 2x is equivelent to > just over 2700kb/sec. CDR 2x is 300kb/sec. > > I don't much care for the writing software that came with it. RecordNowQuoted text (10 lines)
> is ok for beginners, but RecordNow Max is, IMHO, what they should have > packaged with the drive. RecordNow Max is actually pretty nice. > Unfortunately, Veritas (the writer of RecordNow/RecordNow Max) decided to > take on Stomp as it's OEM partner for these products, and that's the only > place you can get them. There is no version 4.5 of RecordNow Max, and the > current 4.1 version of Max does not support the new Sony (odd, yes). My > experience with Stomp's ability to keep the software up to date for new > recorders and there tech support has been dismal. > > Fear not. The newly released version of Nero Burning Rom 5.5.8.14Quoted text (22 lines)
> the Sony nicely, and since I also own Nero full compatibility was just a > download away. > > The drive also comes with other software for movie editing and DVD-Movie > mastering, but I haven't used it yet. MyDVD is the name of the DVD > Mastering Software it comes with. > > Here's the best part! > > The drive is only $349. At that price they are not only providing a drive > that covers all formats in question, read AND write, but they are > under-cutting the retail price of most other single-format drives on the > market. > > Killer stuff :) > > -Larry > > > > >is it possible to "back up" dvd movies?
and how much is the media?
$349 for the drive is pretty cheap. Thats less then i payed for my Panasonic
4x SCSI CDR back in teh 90's
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Every now and then a manufacturer comes out with a product that justleaves
drive
discs
4.5
supports
Quoted text (10 lines)
> the competition scratching their head and wondering what they are going to > do about it. I figure this has happened at least twice this year: > > 1. The ATI Radeon 9700 Pro. I just wish I could validate the need to > upgrade to one. > 2. The new Sony DRU-500A CD/DVD Recorder. > > I just picked up one of these new Sony's yesterday at CompUSA. They were > released on Friday, October 11th so I was a bit suprised to see them have > them in stock so soon (though they didn't have a bunch). I think thisQuoted text (18 lines)
> is going to be hard to keep on the shelf. > > If you haven't heard of it, the Sony DRU-500A is the first drive on the > market that is basically future and format proof. It's the first truly > safe-purchase DVD Recorder made considering all the political bickering > going on concerning the DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW format wars. Microsoft > tossing it's hat into the DVD+R/RW ring for approval, even though it's the > least compatible and least mature of the two, only worsened the situation. > > Why? Because the new Sony does _everything_. > > CDR. CDRW. DVD-R. DVD-RW. DVD+R. DVD+RW. VCD. Etc... > > The only thing I'm not sure about is Mt. Raineer... I'll have to re-check > the specs for that one. But, since that's a packet-writing format I'll > never use it (packet writing is a pain in the ass). > > The first thing I did was back up my server. I used some Apple DVD-RQuoted text (10 lines)
> I picked up for my iMac. They worked perfectly, and it took five 4.7GB > DVD-R's to back up the important stuff I would need to restore quickly in > case of a server drive failure. > > Each 4.7GB disc took approximately 30 minutes to burn at DVD-R 2x speed. > > DVD writing speed is different from CDR speed. DVD-R 2x is equivelent to > just over 2700kb/sec. CDR 2x is 300kb/sec. > > I don't much care for the writing software that came with it. RecordNowQuoted text (10 lines)
> is ok for beginners, but RecordNow Max is, IMHO, what they should have > packaged with the drive. RecordNow Max is actually pretty nice. > Unfortunately, Veritas (the writer of RecordNow/RecordNow Max) decided to > take on Stomp as it's OEM partner for these products, and that's the only > place you can get them. There is no version 4.5 of RecordNow Max, and the > current 4.1 version of Max does not support the new Sony (odd, yes). My > experience with Stomp's ability to keep the software up to date for new > recorders and there tech support has been dismal. > > Fear not. The newly released version of Nero Burning Rom 5.5.8.14Quoted text (22 lines)
> the Sony nicely, and since I also own Nero full compatibility was just a > download away. > > The drive also comes with other software for movie editing and DVD-Movie > mastering, but I haven't used it yet. MyDVD is the name of the DVD > Mastering Software it comes with. > > Here's the best part! > > The drive is only $349. At that price they are not only providing a drive > that covers all formats in question, read AND write, but they are > under-cutting the retail price of most other single-format drives on the > market. > > Killer stuff :) > > -Larry > > > > >I believe that unless you have a DVD player that can circumnavigate the
macrovision copyright protection software that you won't be able to make a
copy of a DVD...
That said, Apex makes an inexpensive DVD player that can be hacked and plays
DVD's, CD's MP3's VCD's and SVCD's!
I've got the older model AD-703 that I hacked with help from www.vcdhelp.com
it not only allows me to turn off macrovision, but also play DVD's from ANY
region code!
Now... The better question is... How do you get the output (S-Video or RCA
jack output) from the DVD player to feed into the PC in order to record?
I assume a video card that has S-Video or RCA in is a requirement, but from
there ???
Do you somehow record to hard drive first, then burn to DVD or can you play
on the DVD player, and record on the DVD burner directly?
For those videophiles out there who have done this... Please share!
Thanks
Jay J
"Andreas Nystrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:aIgq9.1507$[email hidden]...
> is it possible to "back up" dvd movies?
> and how much is the media?
>
> $349 for the drive is pretty cheap. Thats less then i payed for myPanasonic
to
were
> > released on Friday, October 11th so I was a bit suprised to see themhave
the
> > least compatible and least mature of the two, only worsened thesituation.
> >
> > Why? Because the new Sony does _everything_.
> >
> > CDR. CDRW. DVD-R. DVD-RW. DVD+R. DVD+RW. VCD. Etc...
> >
> > The only thing I'm not sure about is Mt. Raineer... I'll have tore-check
in
> > case of a server drive failure.
> >
> > Each 4.7GB disc took approximately 30 minutes to burn at DVD-R 2x speed.
> >
> > DVD writing speed is different from CDR speed. DVD-R 2x is equivelentto
to
> > take on Stomp as it's OEM partner for these products, and that's theonly
> > place you can get them. There is no version 4.5 of RecordNow Max, andthe
drive
Quoted text (8 lines)
> 4x SCSI CDR back in teh 90's > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Rygq9.120922$[email hidden]... > > Every now and then a manufacturer comes out with a product that just > leaves > > the competition scratching their head and wondering what they are goingQuoted text (7 lines)
> > do about it. I figure this has happened at least twice this year: > > > > 1. The ATI Radeon 9700 Pro. I just wish I could validate the need to > > upgrade to one. > > 2. The new Sony DRU-500A CD/DVD Recorder. > > > > I just picked up one of these new Sony's yesterday at CompUSA. TheyQuoted text (9 lines)
> > them in stock so soon (though they didn't have a bunch). I think this > drive > > is going to be hard to keep on the shelf. > > > > If you haven't heard of it, the Sony DRU-500A is the first drive on the > > market that is basically future and format proof. It's the first truly > > safe-purchase DVD Recorder made considering all the political bickering > > going on concerning the DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW format wars. Microsoft > > tossing it's hat into the DVD+R/RW ring for approval, even though it'sQuoted text (7 lines)
> > the specs for that one. But, since that's a packet-writing format I'll > > never use it (packet writing is a pain in the ass). > > > > The first thing I did was back up my server. I used some Apple DVD-R > discs > > I picked up for my iMac. They worked perfectly, and it took five 4.7GB > > DVD-R's to back up the important stuff I would need to restore quicklyQuoted text (7 lines)
> > just over 2700kb/sec. CDR 2x is 300kb/sec. > > > > I don't much care for the writing software that came with it. RecordNow > 4.5 > > is ok for beginners, but RecordNow Max is, IMHO, what they should have > > packaged with the drive. RecordNow Max is actually pretty nice. > > Unfortunately, Veritas (the writer of RecordNow/RecordNow Max) decidedQuoted text (16 lines)
> > current 4.1 version of Max does not support the new Sony (odd, yes). My > > experience with Stomp's ability to keep the software up to date for new > > recorders and there tech support has been dismal. > > > > Fear not. The newly released version of Nero Burning Rom 5.5.8.14 > supports > > the Sony nicely, and since I also own Nero full compatibility was just a > > download away. > > > > The drive also comes with other software for movie editing and DVD-Movie > > mastering, but I haven't used it yet. MyDVD is the name of the DVD > > Mastering Software it comes with. > > > > Here's the best part! > > > > The drive is only $349. At that price they are not only providing aQuoted text (14 lines)
> > that covers all formats in question, read AND write, but they are > > under-cutting the retail price of most other single-format drives on the > > market. > > > > Killer stuff :) > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > > > > >Video DVD's are copy-protected, so the short answer is no.
There are ways around that (Divx) if you are in to that sort of thing, but
most Divx movies will fit on CD when you are done.
Right now, the median price for quality, name-brand media is around $5 each
for DVD-R's.
-Larry
"Andreas Nystrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:aIgq9.1507$[email hidden]...
> is it possible to "back up" dvd movies?
> and how much is the media?
>
> $349 for the drive is pretty cheap. Thats less then i payed for myPanasonic
to
were
> > released on Friday, October 11th so I was a bit suprised to see themhave
the
> > least compatible and least mature of the two, only worsened thesituation.
> >
> > Why? Because the new Sony does _everything_.
> >
> > CDR. CDRW. DVD-R. DVD-RW. DVD+R. DVD+RW. VCD. Etc...
> >
> > The only thing I'm not sure about is Mt. Raineer... I'll have to re-check
in
> > case of a server drive failure.
> >
> > Each 4.7GB disc took approximately 30 minutes to burn at DVD-R 2x speed.
> >
> > DVD writing speed is different from CDR speed. DVD-R 2x is equivelentto
to
> > take on Stomp as it's OEM partner for these products, and that's theonly
> > place you can get them. There is no version 4.5 of RecordNow Max, andthe
drive
Quoted text (8 lines)
> 4x SCSI CDR back in teh 90's > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Rygq9.120922$[email hidden]... > > Every now and then a manufacturer comes out with a product that just > leaves > > the competition scratching their head and wondering what they are goingQuoted text (7 lines)
> > do about it. I figure this has happened at least twice this year: > > > > 1. The ATI Radeon 9700 Pro. I just wish I could validate the need to > > upgrade to one. > > 2. The new Sony DRU-500A CD/DVD Recorder. > > > > I just picked up one of these new Sony's yesterday at CompUSA. TheyQuoted text (9 lines)
> > them in stock so soon (though they didn't have a bunch). I think this > drive > > is going to be hard to keep on the shelf. > > > > If you haven't heard of it, the Sony DRU-500A is the first drive on the > > market that is basically future and format proof. It's the first truly > > safe-purchase DVD Recorder made considering all the political bickering > > going on concerning the DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW format wars. Microsoft > > tossing it's hat into the DVD+R/RW ring for approval, even though it'sQuoted text (7 lines)
> > the specs for that one. But, since that's a packet-writing format I'll > > never use it (packet writing is a pain in the ass). > > > > The first thing I did was back up my server. I used some Apple DVD-R > discs > > I picked up for my iMac. They worked perfectly, and it took five 4.7GB > > DVD-R's to back up the important stuff I would need to restore quicklyQuoted text (7 lines)
> > just over 2700kb/sec. CDR 2x is 300kb/sec. > > > > I don't much care for the writing software that came with it. RecordNow > 4.5 > > is ok for beginners, but RecordNow Max is, IMHO, what they should have > > packaged with the drive. RecordNow Max is actually pretty nice. > > Unfortunately, Veritas (the writer of RecordNow/RecordNow Max) decidedQuoted text (16 lines)
> > current 4.1 version of Max does not support the new Sony (odd, yes). My > > experience with Stomp's ability to keep the software up to date for new > > recorders and there tech support has been dismal. > > > > Fear not. The newly released version of Nero Burning Rom 5.5.8.14 > supports > > the Sony nicely, and since I also own Nero full compatibility was just a > > download away. > > > > The drive also comes with other software for movie editing and DVD-Movie > > mastering, but I haven't used it yet. MyDVD is the name of the DVD > > Mastering Software it comes with. > > > > Here's the best part! > > > > The drive is only $349. At that price they are not only providing aQuoted text (14 lines)
> > that covers all formats in question, read AND write, but they are > > under-cutting the retail price of most other single-format drives on the > > market. > > > > Killer stuff :) > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > > > > >> Video DVD's are copy-protected, so the short answer is no.
>
> There are ways around that (Divx) if you are in to that sort of thing, but
> most Divx movies will fit on CD when you are done.
Erm...can't you simply rip the DVD with Smartripper to defeat the copy
protection? www.doom9.org has full details....
> CDR. CDRW. DVD-R. DVD-RW. DVD+R. DVD+RW. VCD. Etc...
So which is better - DVD-R or DVD+R?
" " " " - DVD-RW or DVD+RW?
Also, my local PC supplier has a Sony DRU-500. - was that an earlier model
or is it the same drive that they've forgotten to put the A on the end....?
Yes, you can.
Thus my comment "The short answer is...".
You also have to keep in mind that CSS may not be the only form of copy
protection on the disc.
-Larry
"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Video DVD's are copy-protected, so the short answer is no.
> >
> > There are ways around that (Divx) if you are in to that sort of thing,but
> > most Divx movies will fit on CD when you are done.
>
> Erm...can't you simply rip the DVD with Smartripper to defeat the copy
> protection? www.doom9.org has full details....
>
>
Every test ever done has shown DVD-R to be the most compatible with other
DVD players, especially tabletop players.
The way I see it, DVD+R/RW is about politics and DVD-R is about
compatibility.
-Larry
"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > CDR. CDRW. DVD-R. DVD-RW. DVD+R. DVD+RW. VCD. Etc...
>
> So which is better - DVD-R or DVD+R?
> " " " " - DVD-RW or DVD+RW?
>
>
Not everyone lists the "A".
It's easy to tell. Just look at the box/specs. It's the only drive in
existance right now that does - and + formats, and they don't hold back in
advertising those specs :)
-Larry
"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Also, my local PC supplier has a Sony DRU-500. - was that an earlier model
> or is it the same drive that they've forgotten to put the A on theend....?
>
>
> There is no version 4.5 of RecordNow Max, and the current 4.1 version
> of Max does not support the new Sony (odd, yes). My experience with
> Stomp's ability to keep the software up to date for new recorders and
> there tech support has been dismal.
RecordNew Max 4.5 is on its way:
http://www.stompinc.com/news_rnmx45.phtml
Yours,
Tor Anders Johansen
Yes, and buyers of this drive are supposed to get a free download of
RecordNow DX, which I _think_ is Veritas's version of this.
-Larry
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