broken Logitech Force Wheel

I posted here about my LWFF a few weeks ago. When turning right and correcting by a light jerk to the left (eg. Lesmos at Monza), the wheel downshifts. It doesn't happen every lap. However I can replicate the problem in Logitech manager program in configuration/calibrations. One person thought that it was a pinched wire. I thought it could be a conflict in the system. Therefore I reverted back to a Voodoo3-2000 for GPL since I know it works great in this computer. I also removed a couple of cards. But still I get this problem. I took the unit apart and took the wire out that runs from the main board to the buttons in the wheel. It looked fine. Put it back together. But I still downshift occasionally. Where can I find a listing of wires and where they go? Any ideas? I need help soon... my Lotus doesn't last long in a full distance GP when it downshifts by mistake!! PS this is the current selling Logitech FF wheel.

try this, it's a site by our own Jens Schumi about rebuilding the LWFF with ball bearings.. It might have enough pictures and info to help. Good luck. dave henrie http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/LogiCorner.htm

In article <[email hidden]>, asdgsa <[email hidden]> writes:

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>I posted here about my LWFF a few weeks ago. When turning right and >correcting by a light jerk to the left (eg. Lesmos at Monza), the >wheel downshifts. It doesn't happen every lap. However I can >replicate the problem in Logitech manager program in >configuration/calibrations. > >One person thought that it was a pinched wire. I thought it could be >a conflict in the system. Therefore I reverted back to a Voodoo3-2000 >for GPL since I know it works great in this computer. I also removed >a couple of cards. > >But still I get this problem. > >I took the unit apart and took the wire out that runs from the main >board to the buttons in the wheel. It looked fine. Put it back >together. But I still downshift occasionally. > >Where can I find a listing of wires and where they go? > >Any ideas? I need help soon... my Lotus doesn't last long in a full >distance GP when it downshifts by mistake!! >

Check your downshfit button(the switch itself). It's probably flaky. I had the same thing happen on my TSW2mod. When I'd make a sharp left turn, it would downshift. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.03 N2002 Rank:+20.124 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Sat, 14 Sep 2002 19:43:16 -0400, asdgsa <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I posted here about my LWFF a few weeks ago. When turning right and >correcting by a light jerk to the left (eg. Lesmos at Monza), the >wheel downshifts. It doesn't happen every lap. However I can >replicate the problem in Logitech manager program in >configuration/calibrations. > >One person thought that it was a pinched wire. I thought it could be >a conflict in the system. Therefore I reverted back to a Voodoo3-2000 >for GPL since I know it works great in this computer. I also removed >a couple of cards. > >But still I get this problem. > >I took the unit apart and took the wire out that runs from the main >board to the buttons in the wheel. It looked fine. Put it back >together. But I still downshift occasionally. > >Where can I find a listing of wires and where they go? > >Any ideas? I need help soon... my Lotus doesn't last long in a full >distance GP when it downshifts by mistake!! > > >PS this is the current selling Logitech FF wheel.

One other thing... sometimes the shifters show up in GPL as KP+ / KP-. Other times they show up as Button1 / Button2. Why would this happen?

In article <[email hidden]>, asdgsa <[email hidden]> writes: >One other thing... sometimes the shifters show up in GPL as KP+ / KP-. >Other times they show up as Button1 / Button2. Why would this happen? > Maybe because the switch is activating while you're starting the program. From what others have said if you input a control during that time, GPL 'loses' your wheel. That's(kp+/kp-) just the default for shifting... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.03 N2002 Rank:+20.124 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

KP means Keypad if you didnt realise... Cool Hand Luke -=87=- "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, asdgsa<[email hidden]>

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> writes: > > >One other thing... sometimes the shifters show up in GPL as KP+ / KP-. > >Other times they show up as Button1 / Button2. Why would this happen? > > > > Maybe because the switch is activating while you're starting the program.

From > what others have said if you input a control during that time, GPL 'loses'your

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> wheel. That's(kp+/kp-) just the default for shifting... > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+8.03 > N2002 Rank:+20.124 > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <Trhh9.11017$[email hidden]>, "Luke Phillips" <(NOSPM)[email hidden]> writes: >KP means Keypad if you didnt realise... > Uh, yeah - I knew that. When the game loses its config for a wheel, it defaults back to the keyboard controls(KP+/KP-). I stand by my statement. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.03 N2002 Rank:+20.124 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On 16 Sep 2002 18:46:09 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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>In article <Trhh9.11017$[email hidden]>, "Luke Phillips" ><(NOSPM)[email hidden]> writes: > >>KP means Keypad if you didnt realise... >> > >Uh, yeah - I knew that. When the game loses its config for a wheel, it >defaults back to the keyboard controls(KP+/KP-). I stand by my statement.

But if its set to KP+/KP-, the shifter buttons still work. But the keyboard +/- on the number pad do not work.

In article <[email hidden]>, asdgsa <[email hidden]> writes: >But if its set to KP+/KP-, the shifter buttons still work. But the >keyboard +/- on the number pad do not work. > Whoa...that's weird. What happens if you create another player? See if it remembers the controls then. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+8.03 N2002 Rank:+20.124 Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Your last sentence irritates me a bit, since this would mean you own a Momo. The problem is better known on the old red LWFF, which you find in bits and pieces on my website. I assume either your wiring (through steering shaft) or the shifter contacts are flaky. Take of the black plastic housing and pull out the plug to the Cirquit board (grey wire). This disables all the buttons and shifters on the wheel. Assign manual shifting to your keyboard and take a spin. Problems gone? If yes, the problem is with the wire or the shifters. Now replug the thing and unplug under the wheels hub-cap. Test again. If problems again, then the wire is damaged. If not, the shifters/in-wheel-PCB is flaky. Before I type my butt off, try it out and let us share your experience. GL JensSchumi PS: forgot the easiest check: remove the nut and washer under the hub cap. Could be that the washer gives an erratic short-cirquit to the contacts underneath. If so, some office-tape for better insulation will do the trick. On Sat, 14 Sep 2002 19:43:16 -0400, asdgsa <[email hidden]> wrote: >I posted here about my LWFF a few weeks ago. When turning right and >correcting by a light jerk to the left (eg. Lesmos at Monza), the >wheel downshifts. It doesn't happen every lap. However I can >replicate the problem in Logitech manager program in >configuration/calibrations.<snip>> > >PS this is the current selling Logitech FF wheel. --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.bravepages.com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95