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12 posts by 6 people · 07 Sep 2002 20:39 UTC - 11 Sep 2002 21:23 UTC

Dennis Croll 07 Sep 2002 20:39 UTC#98914
I play Nascar 2002. I have a Geforce 2 video card. About 3 or 4 minutes into the game the hard disk will start to have a bunch of activity, the sound will stutter and the video will stutter and lose a bunch of frame rates. After about 30 seconds all this activity on the disk stops and I dont see it again while playing. The currious thing is that I look in system information and the video card, network card and sound card are all on IRQ 11. It is said that nothing should be in PCI slot 1 because it shares with the AGP so I put the sound card in number 3 slot which is supposed to be a non share slot. I have moved the network card to slots 2, 4 and 5 but still all of the cards share IRQ 11. The question is. Is this normal or could this be causeing the stuttering. System Asus a7v133 AMD 1.1 512 meg gefore 2 32 meg network card sound blaster Live
It is completely normal if you are running XP, you can give cards their own IRQ's by removing ACPI support. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Dennis Croll <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Xtte9.37686$Jo.1437@rwcrnsc53... > I play Nascar 2002. I have a Geforce 2 video card. About 3 or 4 minutes > into the game the hard disk will start to have a bunch of activity, the > sound will stutter and the video will stutter and lose a bunch of frame > rates. After about 30 seconds all this activity on the disk stops and I > dont see it again while playing. The currious thing is that I look in > system information and the video card, network card and sound card are all > on IRQ 11. It is said that nothing should be in PCI slot 1 because it > shares with the AGP so I put the sound card in number 3 slot which is > supposed to be a non share slot. I have moved the network card to slots 2, > 4 and 5 but still all of the cards share IRQ 11. The question is. Is this > normal or could this be causeing the stuttering. > > System > Asus a7v133 > AMD 1.1 > 512 meg > gefore 2 32 meg > network card > sound blaster Live > >
Dave Henrie 08 Sep 2002 01:28 UTC↳ reply to Biz#98849
"Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:r5ue9.16655$[email hidden]... > It is completely normal if you are running XP, you can give cards theirown IRQ's by removing ACPI > support. > -- > Biz Every motherboard manufacturer will say there is no problem with sharing IRQ's. But annecdotal evidence continues to show that video and sound and netcards shoud never ever ever share. I guess if it still runs, even with hard drive thrashing and video and sound corruption, it's NOT a problem as long as it gets through that and motors on...(yikes sentence run-on!!!) Depending on your OS, there are various things you can do to adjust the irq's...what do you have? dave henrie
The IRQ's being the same is completely normal under Windows 2000/XP. This is ACPI in action, and you should leave it alone. Your problem lies elsewhere, and my first guess would be some sort of utility running in the background. AntiVirus ? Norton Utilities? Scanner software? etc... -Larry "Dennis Croll" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Xtte9.37686$Jo.1437@rwcrnsc53...
Quoted text (9 lines)> I play Nascar 2002. I have a Geforce 2 video card. About 3 or 4 minutes > into the game the hard disk will start to have a bunch of activity, the > sound will stutter and the video will stutter and lose a bunch of frame > rates. After about 30 seconds all this activity on the disk stops and I > dont see it again while playing. The currious thing is that I look in > system information and the video card, network card and sound card are all > on IRQ 11. It is said that nothing should be in PCI slot 1 because it > shares with the AGP so I put the sound card in number 3 slot which is > supposed to be a non share slot. I have moved the network card to slots
2, > 4 and 5 but still all of the cards share IRQ 11. The question is. Isthis
Quoted text (11 lines)> normal or could this be causeing the stuttering. > > System > Asus a7v133 > AMD 1.1 > 512 meg > gefore 2 32 meg > network card > sound blaster Live > >
I used end it all to kill all other programs running but it still does it. By the way I am running Me "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BDze9.55131$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> The IRQ's being the same is completely normal under Windows 2000/XP. This > is ACPI in action, and you should leave it alone. > > Your problem lies elsewhere, and my first guess would be some sort of > utility running in the background. > > AntiVirus ? > Norton Utilities? > Scanner software? > > etc... > > -Larry > > "Dennis Croll" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Xtte9.37686$Jo.1437@rwcrnsc53... > > I play Nascar 2002. I have a Geforce 2 video card. About 3 or 4
minutes > > into the game the hard disk will start to have a bunch of activity, the > > sound will stutter and the video will stutter and lose a bunch of frame > > rates. After about 30 seconds all this activity on the disk stops and I > > dont see it again while playing. The currious thing is that I look in > > system information and the video card, network card and sound card areall
Quoted text (19 lines)> > on IRQ 11. It is said that nothing should be in PCI slot 1 because it > > shares with the AGP so I put the sound card in number 3 slot which is > > supposed to be a non share slot. I have moved the network card to slots > 2, > > 4 and 5 but still all of the cards share IRQ 11. The question is. Is > this > > normal or could this be causeing the stuttering. > > > > System > > Asus a7v133 > > AMD 1.1 > > 512 meg > > gefore 2 32 meg > > network card > > sound blaster Live > > > > > >
"Dennis Croll" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sOKe9.194975$[email hidden]... > I used end it all to kill all other programs running but it still does it. > By the way I am running Me > An old trick we used to use was to move the sound card as far away from the vid card as possible. Put it in the last slot even if you have to move around some other cards. Also you don't really want a net card sharing an IRQ with the sound, try shifting things so your modem or some other card is stuck sharing. dave henrie
Ahhh Windows ME. Have you turned off system restore and PC health ? They will cause the exact problem you are experiencing -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> "Dennis Croll" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sOKe9.194975$[email hidden]... > I used end it all to kill all other programs running but it still does it. > By the way I am running Me >
how do you turn off system restore and pc health "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:alg3q6$6gc$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Ahhh Windows ME. Have you turned off system restore and PC health ? > They will cause the exact problem you are experiencing > > -- > > Ian P > <email invalid due to spam> > > > "Dennis Croll" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:sOKe9.194975$[email hidden]... > > I used end it all to kill all other programs running but it still does
it. > > By the way I am running Me > > > > >
What I did with ME it control the IRQs was to turn off Plug and Play O/S in the System bios. This reverts the control back to the motherboard. Then moving the cards around usually does the trick. With my bios I can see the IRQ assignments on boot up without starting windows so its a pretty quick job to find the right locations. However it sounds like something is trying to access your hard drive. If the restore and PC health doesn't do it you may want to try tweaking some other memory settings. I had to that with a program called cacheman back in Win98. FWIW I never had any issues with PC health, and system restore. As many times as I used restore I'm glad I didn't have it turned off. MadDAWG
This is a quote from a mail that was posted here some time ago. "10 modifications that I have made to Windows ME to gain SIGNIFICANT increase in speed, performance and security. I have tested these settings for over a month and haven't encountered any problems. After applying these tweaks and rebooting the free resources are 99%. Before you decide you actually want to give up these features for the extra speed you should read this page. http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/features/2000/sept00/09-05winme.asp Keep in mind that the developers and testers for these features never encountered a worm or trojan or they may have found that PC Health and Restore will reinstall a trojan because it wants to take you back to the previous state before your "cleaning" modifications were made. Their ideas are good but unfortunately they didn't take these problems into account. It's also obvious they use very fast computers and didn't notice the deterioration of speed (compared to 9x) with all these features turned on. 1. Disable System Restore. Open Control Panel -> System -> Performance Tab -> File System - > Troubleshooting area -> Disable System Restore (While you are in this window click on the Floppy Disk tab and uncheck the box so the system doesn't check for a NEW floppy drive every time it starts.) ~~ 2. Uninstall Pc Health. Start / Run "\windows\pchealth\support\pchsetup /uninstall" ~~ 3. Turn off Automatic Updating. (This will hog your modem for 30 mins every day when you first go on line if you don't turn it off.) Start / Settings / Taskbar / Advanced then check Expand Control Panel and close and go to Start / Settings / Control Panel / Automatic Updates and turn OFF Automatic Updating ~~ 4. Use ram memory rather than the swap file. (The system needs OVER 64 megs of ram.) Start / Search / Files type and enter: "system.ini" then click on it and open it in Notepad and add this line after [386Enh] (without quotes) "ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1" ~~ 5. Set file system to cache about 20 times higher than its default setting. Copy and paste these lines to Notepad and name the file MaxCached.reg then click on MaxCached.reg from Windows Explorer and say Yes you want to add that information to your registry. (You must set Notepad to "all files" when you save it or it will save as text.) -------------------------------- copy below ---------------------------------- REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\FS Templates] @="Max Cache" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\FS Templates\Max Cache] @="Max Cache" "NameCache"=hex:00,18,00,00 "PathCache"=hex:80,00,00,00 ------------------------------- to above ------------------------------------ ~~ 6. Disable these settings in the start menu. Start / Run type and enter: "Msconfig" then click on Startup and UNCHECK PcHealth, StateMgr, SchedulingAgent and Taskmon Then allow the system to reboot so all these changes will take effect. ~~ 7. Run Windows Explorer and click on Tools / Folder Options / View and select "Show hidden files and folders" then browse the c: drive and delete the _Restore folder. Hold your shift key so it doesn't move it to the recycle bin while you press del. This folder can have hundreds of megs of temp files if you have been running ME for a while with the system Restore and PC Health on. If you get an error message saying there is a sharing violation you haven't successfully turned off Pc Health and Restore. The _Restore folder should NOT appears again in the future (unless you update a key Microsoft program like IE). ~~ 8. See if anything unnecessary is running all the time. Press CTRL + ALT + DEl at the same time, after you have first booted up and see what programs are loaded. You may find several programs running that don't need to run all the time. Most of them, if actually needed, can be loaded from the Start / Programs menu. ~~ 9. Don't let windows run HTA, SHS and VBS Script automatically. Those file associations allow viruses to infect your system. Open Windows Explorer and click Tools / Folder Options / File Types and delete HTA, SHS and VBSscript. It is very unlikely a normal PC user would need those file associations turned on. ~~ 10. Disable "Automatic check for Windows Explorer updates" From the IE "Tools" menu click on "Internet Options" then go to "Advanced" and uncheck the 4th box. EVERY week back up modified files, defrag the system and update the definitions and scan the whole system with your favorite anti-viral program. Run Ad-Aware to fight the spying that a least 100 programs are known to do. (I do this mainly to save the baud width wasted by the data and banner ads that are passing back and forth.)" -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> "Dennis Croll" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ysAf9.281367$aA.49537@sccrnsc02... > how do you turn off system restore and pc health > > "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:alg3q6$6gc$[email hidden]... > > Ahhh Windows ME. Have you turned off system restore and PC health ? > > They will cause the exact problem you are experiencing > > > > -- > > > > Ian P > > <email invalid due to spam> > > > > > > "Dennis Croll" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:sOKe9.194975$[email hidden]... > > > I used end it all to kill all other programs running but it still does > it. > > > By the way I am running Me > > > > > > > > > >
I can't help with WinME. I have like 90 minutes of experience with it. That's all it took for me to know it was time to format again :) -Larry "Dennis Croll" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sOKe9.194975$[email hidden]... > I used end it all to kill all other programs running but it still does it. > By the way I am running Me > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:BDze9.55131$[email hidden]... > > The IRQ's being the same is completely normal under Windows 2000/XP.This
Quoted text (18 lines)> > is ACPI in action, and you should leave it alone. > > > > Your problem lies elsewhere, and my first guess would be some sort of > > utility running in the background. > > > > AntiVirus ? > > Norton Utilities? > > Scanner software? > > > > etc... > > > > -Larry > > > > "Dennis Croll" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Xtte9.37686$Jo.1437@rwcrnsc53... > > > I play Nascar 2002. I have a Geforce 2 video card. About 3 or 4 > minutes > > > into the game the hard disk will start to have a bunch of activity,
the > > > sound will stutter and the video will stutter and lose a bunch offrame > > > rates. After about 30 seconds all this activity on the disk stops andI > > > dont see it again while playing. The currious thing is that I look in > > > system information and the video card, network card and sound card are > all > > > on IRQ 11. It is said that nothing should be in PCI slot 1 because it > > > shares with the AGP so I put the sound card in number 3 slot which is > > > supposed to be a non share slot. I have moved the network card toslots
Quoted text (17 lines)> > 2, > > > 4 and 5 but still all of the cards share IRQ 11. The question is. Is > > this > > > normal or could this be causeing the stuttering. > > > > > > System > > > Asus a7v133 > > > AMD 1.1 > > > 512 meg > > > gefore 2 32 meg > > > network card > > > sound blaster Live > > > > > > > > > > >
Larry 11 Sep 2002 21:23 UTC↳ reply to Ian P#98460
That's a good call. The System Restore in ME is very intrusive on performance. I didn't think it was quite that regular, though. -Larry "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:alg3q6$6gc$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Ahhh Windows ME. Have you turned off system restore and PC health ? > They will cause the exact problem you are experiencing > > -- > > Ian P > <email invalid due to spam> > > > "Dennis Croll" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:sOKe9.194975$[email hidden]... > > I used end it all to kill all other programs running but it still does
it. > > By the way I am running Me > > > > >

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