This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to
post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !!
bl
Troll tells NASCAR sim fans to leave the newsgroup
A poster told NASCAR sim players to leave the group, which regulars recognised as a troll. Jan Verschueren and others replied that NR2002 was the most competent sim available and fully on topic, leading to a brief GPL versus NR2002 debate on simulation fidelity versus emotional appeal. Luke Phillips accidentally reposted the same reply many times.
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"Bob Laramme" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to
> post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !!
>
>
> bl
lol! Bad day at school?
Malc.
lol, who are you? Nascar = sim; you = loser. Anyone that has played N2k
knows it is THE Sim
Phillip
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >"Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Baunf Frederick <[email hidden]> appears to be the same person.
Bit boring for a troll though.
Malc.
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> lol, who are you? Nascar = sim; you = loser. Anyone that has played N2k > knows it is THE Sim > > Phillip > > > "Bob Laramme" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:_dbd9.393335$[email hidden]... > > This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > > > > bl"Bob Laramme" wrote...
> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You
> need to find another NG to post your childish
> crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !!
Papyrus' Nascar Racing 2002 Season is currently the finest and most "all
round" competent example of mass produced simracing technology on the PC and
therefore it and all that surrounds it is very much on topic on this group.
Now, kindly, go find another sandbox to throw a tantrum in.
Jan.
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Troll meter is calling Jan :0))
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> lol, who are you? Nascar = sim; you = loser. Anyone that has played N2k > knows it is THE Sim > > Phillip > > > "Bob Laramme" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:_dbd9.393335$[email hidden]... > > This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > > > > bl > > > > > > > > > >On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:15:30 -0400, "Phillip Malphrus, Jr."
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>lol, who are you? Nascar = sim; you = loser. Anyone that has played N2k
>knows it is THE Sim
THE sim was released in 1998 and its not about taxi cabs.
"asdgsa" wrote...
> > <snip>
> THE sim was released in 1998 and its not about taxi cabs.
BS, NR2002 is superior in every (simulation) respect. You perception of
NASCAR as a sport is keeping you from running Papyrus' finest.
Jan.
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"Mitch_A" wrote...
> Troll meter is calling Jan :0))
Aww... can't I just toy with him for a while? -Please?
Jan.
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Tell it to Opie and Anthony.
-Larry
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >>"Bob Laramme" <[email hidden]> wrote
> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to
> post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !!
Tehehe.
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>"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote
> BS, NR2002 is superior in every (simulation) respect. You perception of
> NASCAR as a sport is keeping you from running Papyrus' finest.
*ouch*. I have to agree here from a "simulation" POV. But simracing is
more then just technical I/O, it's also racing, a form of motorsport so
there is evidently some emotion and some correlation between the driver and
it's car/track/environment.
GPL in that aspect, is superior.
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a sim without a tire model and without pitting does a better job with that
correlation?
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> >"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote > > BS, NR2002 is superior in every (simulation) respect. You perception of > > NASCAR as a sport is keeping you from running Papyrus' finest. > > > > *ouch*. I have to agree here from a "simulation" POV. But simracing is > more then just technical I/O, it's also racing, a form of motorsport so > there is evidently some emotion and some correlation between the driverQuoted text (15 lines)
> it's car/track/environment. > > GPL in that aspect, is superior. > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >
It is very much on topic, at least it talks about sim racing online and has
brought a community together.
I for one very much enjoy reading on the happenings of these guys racing
N2002 online together. It does a lot for the sport.
Don Burnette
"Bob Laramme" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >I don't know why you guys feed them, they are the same 14 yr old kids that
use their Dad's computer, while he is at work, to create Trolls at NGs and
Go to Online Races and Go Backwards wrecking. They disapear for a week when
their Dads find out what they are doing and lock the computer.
They are in it because they create a disturbance, ignore them and they will
go away.
Damm, I just Fed them, and I saw the sign that said not to, I couldn't help
it :-)
Darf
"Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote on 04
Sep 2002:
> lol, who are you? Nascar = sim; you = loser. Anyone that has
> played N2k knows it is THE Sim
...for those whose steering wheels are broken so they can only go one
way <g> Anyway, THE sim is "Revs"...
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to
> post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !!
>
>
> bl
I believe he may have psoted that in the wrong newsgroup. I believe perhaps
it was meant for the other newsgroup he
frequents....assholes.without.purpose
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >Bob Laramme wrote:
> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to
> post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !!
Who the hell are you??
Oh, and Bite Me.
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It's hard to "get lost" on an oval!
"Bob Laramme" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >> It's hard to "get lost" on an oval!
>I frequently forget where the pit entry is, does that count ?
Err hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not
rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto another group
or goto an online forum for the game you like..
Cool Hand Luke
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >Err hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not
rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto another group
or goto an online forum for the game you like..
Cool Hand Luke
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >Err hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not
rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto another group
or goto an online forum for the game you like..
Cool Hand Luke
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >Err hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not
rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto another group
or goto an online forum for the game you like..
Cool Hand Luke
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >Err hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not
rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto another group
or goto an online forum for the game you like..
Cool Hand Luke
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >STFU and go play in traffic!
In article <_dbd9.393335$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...
> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to
> post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !!
>
>
> bl
you can say that again... :)
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> Err hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not > rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto another group > or goto an online forum for the game you like.. > > Cool Hand Luke > -=87=- > "Bob Laramme" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:_dbd9.393335$[email hidden]... > > This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > > > > bl > > > > > > > > > >Err hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not
rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto another group
or goto an online forum for the game you like..
Cool Hand Luke
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >Err hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not
rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto another group
or goto an online forum for the game you like..
Cool Hand Luke
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"Bob Laramme" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >
"Luke Phillips" <(NOSPM)[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Err hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not
> rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto another group
> or goto an online forum for the game you like..
what did you say ? :)
Err hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not
rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto another group
or goto an online forum for the game you like..
Cool Hand Luke
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"Bob Laramme" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >Luke Phillips wrote:
> Err hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not
> rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto another group
> or goto an online forum for the game you like..
Errr... someone change that record! :-)
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this guy has class....
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >>"Phillip Malphrus, Jr." <[email hidden]> wrote
> a sim without a tire model and without pitting does a better job with that
> correlation?
I'm obviously talking about the emotional aspect here below.
> "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote
> >
> > *ouch*. I have to agree here from a "simulation" POV. But simracing is
> > more then just technical I/O, it's also racing, a form of motorsport so
> > there is evidently some emotion and some correlation between the driverand
> > it's car/track/environment.
> >
> > GPL in that aspect, is superior.
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>"Luke Phillips" <(NOSPM)[email hidden]> wrote
> Err hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not
> rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto another group
> or goto an online forum for the game you like..
Errr Luke I think you're sleeping with your head stuck on the [Enter] key :)
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"ymenard" wrote...
Hmmm, I see what you mean, but I only agree to a certain extend.
I believe every (major) motorsport has it's own subtleties and places it's
own particular demands on the player. As long as the simulation forces the
player to experience those(and modern sims have the ability), it's worth
playing, regardless of the series it portrays.
Before GPL I didn't know a lot about the history of F1 (say pre-1978) and,
frankly, I didn't care about it much either. What got my attention was the
bold claims of realism in the simulation by Papyrus (known and trusted
developer). Now that GPL hammered home the finer points of racing before the
safety crusade, I appreciate the efforts those who paved he way much more.
Same, to a certain extend with the NASCAR line of sims... though I was more
interested in the series to begin with, over the years and particularly in
view of the latest incarnations (N4 and N2k2), my respect for Winston Cup
drivers has grown deeper over the years.
For me (good) sims enhance the enjoyment of motorsport and allow me discover
more about what it takes to produce what I see on TV. It's a
self-perpetuating fascination.
So, IMO, saying a sim is more worthy because of it being good and having a
less popular subjectmatter, is an entirely subjective assesment and
partially indicative of a certain measure of narrowmindedness on the part of
the person making it.
Jan.
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> > <snip> > > *ouch*. I have to agree here from a "simulation" POV. > But simracing is more then just technical I/O, it's also > racing, a form of motorsport so there is evidently some > emotion and some correlation between the driver and it's > car/track/environment. > > GPL in that aspect, is superior.Ya............and besides.........it
.........................it...........it ain't no GPL !
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> this guy has class.... > > Bob Laramme <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:_dbd9.393335$[email hidden]... > > This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > > > > bl > > > > > > > > > >Ya............and besides.........it
.........................it...........it ain't no GPL !
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> this guy has class.... > > This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > blErr hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not
rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto another group
or goto an online forum for the game you like..
Cool Hand Luke
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> This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > bl > > > >lol
"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >"Luke Phillips" <(NOSPM)[email hidden]> wrote
> > Err hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not
> > rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto anothergroup
> > or goto an online forum for the game you like..
>
>
> Errr Luke I think you're sleeping with your head stuck on the [Enter] key:)
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> > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >Just let it go Luke, let it go....
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> Err hate to break it to you but this is rec.autos.SIMULATORS . Not > rec.auto.openwheelers or whatever.. If you dont like it goto another group > or goto an online forum for the game you like.. > > Cool Hand Luke > -=87=- > "Bob Laramme" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:_dbd9.393335$[email hidden]... > > This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to > > post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !! > > > > > > bl > > > > > > > > > >In article <_dbd9.393335$[email hidden]>, "Bob
Laramme" <[email hidden]> writes:
>This newsgroup is not a NASCAR newsgroup. You need to find another NG to
>post your childish crap. You're not wanted here! GET LOST !!
<yawn>
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And not the enter key so much :)
-Larry
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