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Analogies, trains and FIRST-Racing...

Byron Forbe

Analogies, trains and FIRST-Racing...

by Byron Forbe » Fri, 25 Mar 2005 22:18:40




>> This whole mess just took a very serious turn I guess...

>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> Forgot this...

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

    Pretty sad stuff. It seems they can, so they have. ie it seems some
copyright stuff may have been breached so they have a "legal" right to do
this. The question is - should they? My answer is a huge NO!

    I found it a little bit funny that DK reminds us over a half a dozen
times that he's so committed to making the best simulators on planet earth
yet here he is apparently threatened by a mod of a hack (the hack being
pta).

    Petty.

Tony Rickar

Analogies, trains and FIRST-Racing...

by Tony Rickar » Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:00:34


> This whole mess just took a very serious turn I guess...

> http://www.first-racing.net/index.php?/First-Racing/legal/

With all the money lawyers charge you'd think they would use a spell
checker. It takes some of the official edge off a legal document when they
can't spell defendant...

I am not sure most companies would want this stuff on their brand web site
but so be it, I guess they want to make a stand to the modders. I am sure it
goes without saying similar action will be taken against the internet
cracking outfits who simply duplicate their stuff and distribute it on the
Net?

Cheers
Tony

Tony Rickar

Analogies, trains and FIRST-Racing...

by Tony Rickar » Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:35:55

Note the train analogy has been dropped from FIRST's letter on their main
news page.

DK must have been fearful I'd do another one... :)

Cheers
Tony

Goy Larse

Analogies, trains and FIRST-Racing...

by Goy Larse » Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:55:03


> Note the train analogy has been dropped from FIRST's letter on their main
> news page.

> DK must have been fearful I'd do another one... :)

Either that or he was afraid the developers of Rail Road Tycoon would
sue him

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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Byron Forbe

Analogies, trains and FIRST-Racing...

by Byron Forbe » Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:31:51



>> Note the train analogy has been dropped from FIRST's letter on their main
>> news page.

>> DK must have been fearful I'd do another one... :)

> Either that or he was afraid the developers of Rail Road Tycoon would
> sue him

    LOL.
ymenar

Analogies, trains and FIRST-Racing...

by ymenar » Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:38:21


> "Narrow-casting" (semi-peivate distribution) of "art" is the gray area
> we're
> talking about, and who'd win a suit would depend on who had the deeper
> pockets.

Exactly.  I often wrote about this here, that we have to remember that 99%
of all modifications third-party users have done probably have some form of
legal gray area.  Just take car paints, how many of them have decals and
sponsors which they have not agreed to?  All of them.  Heck even putting the
standard Nascar decals near the door number, is in the gray area (that was,
after Papyrus stopped having their own paintkit with licensed decals).  Same
for tracks with billboards, etc...

So if they start stopping mods, they also enter in the gray area where
themselves don't put the effort to block completely ALL possible legal
issues.  That would be crazy, basically the software would be a simple
client where we couldn't alter anything, from sounds, tracks, graphical
add-ons, etc... as they would fear public distribution of such
modifications.

They should have went the Microsoft way with the FS series, and just made it
open in their first release back a decade ago.  FS will stop being popular
in the future if they start blocking more and more distributions of
third-party add-ons (that where they built their market), so
Papyrus/F1RST/whatever should have had gone the same road with their racing
sim, nowadays we wouldn't fight for these issues as it would be the selling
point behind the simulator.

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