Hmm, it's very subtle, I agree, but I really believe (or imagine?)
different grip levels and wheel resistance. At least if you lock up
the front wheels there is no centering anymore (at least with the Momo).
l8er
ronny
Hmm, it's very subtle, I agree, but I really believe (or imagine?)
different grip levels and wheel resistance. At least if you lock up
the front wheels there is no centering anymore (at least with the Momo).
l8er
ronny
True, it's "modulated" according to certain influences (locking wheel, rears
spinning up), but you can't rely on it. Can't "feel" how hard you're
pushing, gotta look and listen out for that. Very annoying now there's sound
from the other cars in traffic.
Jan.
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> > > RAS has always been too quick to criticise the GP series over the
years.
> > GP3 and GP4 have both, quite rightly, been criticised for being little
> more
> > than patches on GP2 - which in this modern day is NOT up to scratch.
> > I mean - COME ON - where's the tyre temperatures in GP4 - so VITAL to
> > setting up a car.
> > Any sim that allows you - with a default setup - to run through eau
rouge
> > with a missing front wing and front right wheel can rightly be labelled
a
> > complete joke imho
> > DOug
If you ain't happy with r.a.s. you know where to go.
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GP4 is one of the worst software effort, *ever*.
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Pretty silly I agree, but I can take Eau Rouge flat out in F1 2002 as well
with default setups and without a front wing. Haven't tried without the tyre
yetl!
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> Completely agree with everything you say!
> It's all about strengths and weaknesses, and not over-reaction to weaknesses
> which is what happens regularly on ras.
> Iain
'GP4 is shit'
'GP4 is shit'
'GP4 is shit'
you always turn up!
AMAZING!!
Yet again it seems I have to make my position clear:
1) F1 2002 is a better sim than GP4 IMHO.
2) Both have their problems
3) Both have their merits
4) I don't care if you or anyone else thinks that GP4 or anything else is
shit. That's your opinion, and I really couldn't care, it doesn't matter to
me at all. In this case, I don't rate GP4 that highly, but to say it's shit
and an arcade game because of poor multiplayer - that is what I respond to -
stupid logic.
Iain
> > Completely agree with everything you say!
> > It's all about strengths and weaknesses, and not over-reaction to
weaknesses
> > which is what happens regularly on ras.
> > Iain
> I don't know why or how, but if I say...
> 'GP4 is shit'
> 'GP4 is shit'
> 'GP4 is shit'
> you always turn up!
> AMAZING!!
Well it is my complete pleasure.
No, it is evident of your displeasing of this newsgroup, pointing out the
"other" places on the Internet where there is purposively an alternate
universe where miraculously GP4 is praised as almighty God.
But go back to your point, the suggestion that GP4 is an arcade game because
of it's lack of serious multiplayer (or heck, plain multiplayer) is only
*one* of the reason why Geoff's simulations are no more considered serious
by the simracing community. Of course detractors exists, but with each
title (GP3, GP2000 and GP4) they finally see the light and realise that
Geoff's sims are only buffed up 15 years old F1GP's.
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Well Eau Rouge is completely wrong in F1 2002, but the whole Spa track is I
would say pretty well modeled in GP4. It's a good enough excuse to say that
it is possible in F12002, considering the wrong and different
elevation/radius/banking/track width ;-)
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> You don't even have to say it 3 times - once is enough!
> Yet again it seems I have to make my position clear:
> 1) F1 2002 is a better sim than GP4 IMHO.
> 2) Both have their problems
> 3) Both have their merits
> 4) I don't care if you or anyone else thinks that GP4 or anything else is
> shit. That's your opinion, and I really couldn't care, it doesn't matter to
> me at all. In this case, I don't rate GP4 that highly, but to say it's shit
> and an arcade game because of poor multiplayer - that is what I respond to -
> stupid logic.
> Iain
Let me make my position clear.
1. A sim without MP is not a sim at all, imo.
True because:
2. AI is no substitute for human drivers.
and
3. Human drivers cannot be simulated.
Hmm, I wonder...
'Go away'
'Go away'
'Go away'
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> > You don't even have to say it 3 times - once is enough!
> > Yet again it seems I have to make my position clear:
> > 1) F1 2002 is a better sim than GP4 IMHO.
> > 2) Both have their problems
> > 3) Both have their merits
> > 4) I don't care if you or anyone else thinks that GP4 or anything else
is
> > shit. That's your opinion, and I really couldn't care, it doesn't matter
to
> > me at all. In this case, I don't rate GP4 that highly, but to say it's
shit
> > and an arcade game because of poor multiplayer - that is what I respond
to -
> > stupid logic.
> > Iain
> ***, i said it and you turned up...again! As for your idea of 'stupid
> logic', well correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't you say you had no
> interest in MP? That strikes me as stupid.
> Let me make my position clear.
> 1. A sim without MP is not a sim at all, imo.
> True because:
> 2. AI is no substitute for human drivers.
> and
> 3. Human drivers cannot be simulated.
> Hmm, I wonder...
> 'Go away'
> 'Go away'
> 'Go away'
Oh my god, the Chicken is back and still ruling the ng... ;)
Utter nonsense...
l8er
ronny
> Utter nonsense...
G