rec.autos.simulators

by **Larr** » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 13:07:08

I knew it. I KNEW it! I've been telling people for over a year that Apple
would be stupid if they didn't maintain the x86 roots of MacOS
X/NextStep/OpenStep up to date in a deep dark dungeon in Cupertino
somewhere.

Damned if it doesn't look like I was right :)

http://www.racesimcentral.net/,3959,496270,00.asp

-Larry

by **(Rich8** » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 14:03:11

yeah, I saw that on slashdot.org...if OS-X came for x86 procs,, I'd
buy it in a second... I totally dig the Aqua interface...

>I knew it. I KNEW it! I've been telling people for over a year that Apple
>would be stupid if they didn't maintain the x86 roots of MacOS
>X/NextStep/OpenStep up to date in a deep dark dungeon in Cupertino
>somewhere.

>Damned if it doesn't look like I was right :)

>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,496270,00.asp

>-Larry

by **Andreas Nystro** » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 14:21:27

Ive owned a couple of powerbooks, and NEVER AGAIN!. I dont like MacOS at
all, i can understand that some people find it awesome, but its hard to
impress on someone who have taken everything for granted since using AmigaOS
:)

by **John Simmon** » Mon, 02 Sep 2002 20:29:59

All it is now is a port of BSD (kinda like Linux) to the Mac platform.
Many standard Xwindows apps run on it because of that. I've heard it's
quite nice, but like Windows XP, I have never seen it running on a
machine before...

I would be willing to bet that Apple has already taken steps to prevent
the OS from being run on anything thast's not an Apple, regardless of
the type of CPU they use, so I wouldn't get your hopes up too soon that
it will ever be released for the PC...

says...

> Ive owned a couple of powerbooks, and NEVER AGAIN!. I dont like MacOS at
> all, i can understand that some people find it awesome, but its hard to
> impress on someone who have taken everything for granted since using AmigaOS
> :)

> > I knew it. I KNEW it! I've been telling people for over a year that
> Apple
> > would be stupid if they didn't maintain the x86 roots of MacOS
> > X/NextStep/OpenStep up to date in a deep dark dungeon in Cupertino
> > somewhere.

> > Damned if it doesn't look like I was right :)

> > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,496270,00.asp

> > -Larry

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by **jason moy** » Tue, 03 Sep 2002 02:10:30

>I knew it. I KNEW it! I've been telling people for over a year that Apple
>would be stupid if they didn't maintain the x86 roots of MacOS
>X/NextStep/OpenStep up to date in a deep dark dungeon in Cupertino
>somewhere.

You could just run freeBSD or SuSE Linux and install GNUStep, all of
which will be more stable and educational. =)

Jason

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by **Andreas Nystro** » Tue, 03 Sep 2002 03:32:26

Maybe they have.. but if you remember the amiga?, it had a Macintosh
emulator, which
made it able to run macintosh programs. The funny thing was that the
emulator was faster then
a real macintosh =)

by **Peter Nilsso** » Tue, 03 Sep 2002 03:50:04

>>I knew it. I KNEW it! I've been telling people for over a year that Apple
>>would be stupid if they didn't maintain the x86 roots of MacOS
>>X/NextStep/OpenStep up to date in a deep dark dungeon in Cupertino
>>somewhere.

>You could just run freeBSD or SuSE Linux and install GNUStep, all of
>which will be more stable and educational. =)

>Jason

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Good thinking. Mac OS X _is_ FreeBSD (v.4.4 to be precise)
http://www.apple.com/macosx/jaguar/unix.html

/petern

by **Scott B. Huste** » Tue, 03 Sep 2002 09:12:58

From someone who has Win2K, Win XP Pro, Linux Mandrake 8.2, and Apple OS 9
running in the home... I'd love to see Apple migrate to AMD/Intel for CPUs.

We have an iBook and we love it except for one major problem - software
availability and price. *** is a general no-go and the GF4 MX is
considered "top gun". But damn Apple has the displays to kill for with the
Cinema's =)

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by **Larr** » Tue, 03 Sep 2002 10:19:27

You obviously haven't used OS X. It's NOT the same thing.

-Larry

P.S. The Classic MacOS wasn't that bad either....

> Ive owned a couple of powerbooks, and NEVER AGAIN!. I dont like MacOS at
> all, i can understand that some people find it awesome, but its hard to
> impress on someone who have taken everything for granted since using
AmigaOS
> :)

> > I knew it. I KNEW it! I've been telling people for over a year that
> Apple
> > would be stupid if they didn't maintain the x86 roots of MacOS
> > X/NextStep/OpenStep up to date in a deep dark dungeon in Cupertino
> > somewhere.

> > Damned if it doesn't look like I was right :)

> > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,496270,00.asp

> > -Larry

by **Larr** » Tue, 03 Sep 2002 10:20:11

And you base the more stable comment on what ?

-Larry

> >I knew it. I KNEW it! I've been telling people for over a year that
Apple
> >would be stupid if they didn't maintain the x86 roots of MacOS
> >X/NextStep/OpenStep up to date in a deep dark dungeon in Cupertino
> >somewhere.

> You could just run freeBSD or SuSE Linux and install GNUStep, all of
> which will be more stable and educational. =)

> Jason

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by **The Carvalho Famil** » Tue, 03 Sep 2002 10:36:52

Could just be leverage to keep Motorola honest. Or they could get out of
hardware altogether. It definitely gives them more options to deal with
whatever the future may bring.
Jim

>I knew it. I KNEW it! I've been telling people for over a year that Apple
>would be stupid if they didn't maintain the x86 roots of MacOS
>X/NextStep/OpenStep up to date in a deep dark dungeon in Cupertino
>somewhere.

>Damned if it doesn't look like I was right :)

>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,496270,00.asp

>-Larry

by **jason moy** » Tue, 03 Sep 2002 10:56:38

The only thing more stable than freeBSD 4.x (or 3.x for that matter)
is Solaris 8 running on an ultraSPARC.

Most distributions of linux can be nearly as stable if administered by
someone with a clue. Unfortunately that's relatively rare.

Jason

>And you base the more stable comment on what ?

>-Larry

>> >I knew it. I KNEW it! I've been telling people for over a year that
>Apple
>> >would be stupid if they didn't maintain the x86 roots of MacOS
>> >X/NextStep/OpenStep up to date in a deep dark dungeon in Cupertino
>> >somewhere.

>> You could just run freeBSD or SuSE Linux and install GNUStep, all of
>> which will be more stable and educational. =)

>> Jason

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by **(Rich8** » Tue, 03 Sep 2002 13:44:14

True,, I already run nix varient at home,, Mandrake 8 to be specific,,
its the Aqua interface that I want... :-)

>>I knew it. I KNEW it! I've been telling people for over a year that Apple
>>would be stupid if they didn't maintain the x86 roots of MacOS
>>X/NextStep/OpenStep up to date in a deep dark dungeon in Cupertino
>>somewhere.

>You could just run freeBSD or SuSE Linux and install GNUStep, all of
>which will be more stable and educational. =)

>Jason

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by **Ruud van Ga** » Tue, 03 Sep 2002 19:29:18

>>I knew it. I KNEW it! I've been telling people for over a year that Apple
>>would be stupid if they didn't maintain the x86 roots of MacOS
>>X/NextStep/OpenStep up to date in a deep dark dungeon in Cupertino
>>somewhere.

>You could just run freeBSD or SuSE Linux and install GNUStep, all of
>which will be more stable and educational. =)

Mac OSX 10.2 runs quite fine here though.
Would be VERY nice if we could update our Intel machines for a choice
of 2 OSes and Windows. ;-)

(although Mac programming does show legacy ***completely in the
middle of new API's; bad).

Ruud van Gaal
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by **Eldre** » Tue, 03 Sep 2002 20:47:59

>You obviously haven't used OS X. It's NOT the same thing.

I like OSX even *less* than OS 9...and I've used both.

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