Only one I've had any trouble with so far is Richard Burns Rally. Anyone
managed to get it working on Vista?
It installs, detects my video card (ATI 4850) but when I try to run it
is says something along the lines of "No Direct3D card detected" and
shuts down.
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Sean Black
Don't have that game so can't say for sure but it may be because you
haven't installed Direrctx9 yet. Vista comes with Directx10 and is missing
a couple of files some Directx9 games need. Download dxwebsetup.exe from
Microsoft ands run that while online, it will install the files you may
need. You need to do this on Vista anyway even if that isn't what is
causing the issue with RBR as there are most definately games you will
probably come across that do need those files.
Andrew McP
>> Just got a new PC with Vista, just trying out a few of my old sims to
>> see how they go.
>> Only one I've had any trouble with so far is Richard Burns Rally. Anyone
>> managed to get it working on Vista?
>> It installs, detects my video card (ATI 4850) but when I try to run it
>> is says something along the lines of "No Direct3D card detected" and
>> shuts down.
> Don't have that game so can't say for sure but it may be because you
> haven't installed Direrctx9 yet. Vista comes with Directx10 and is missing
> a couple of files some Directx9 games need. Download dxwebsetup.exe from
> Microsoft ands run that while online, it will install the files you may
> need. You need to do this on Vista anyway even if that isn't what is
> causing the issue with RBR as there are most definately games you will
> probably come across that do need those files.
RobP
>> with Directx10 and is missing
>> a couple of files some Directx9 games need.
> Interesting. I hope to avoid Vista altogether, but if I don't that's a
> useful bit of info to store away. I'd always assumed that each dx release
> was backwards compatible for at least a couple of iterations.
> Andrew McP
My brother also had the same thing happen to him, so he has now ditched
Vista too.
The scary bit is that all the so called 'review sites' claim that games run
at a similar speed on Vista, but given what me and my brother have seen I
can't see how that could be true.
Maybe it's because we were using the 32bit version? - Who knows.
RobP
>> with Directx10 and is missing
>> a couple of files some Directx9 games need.
>Interesting. I hope to avoid Vista altogether, but if I don't that's a
>useful bit of info to store away. I'd always assumed that each dx release
>was backwards compatible for at least a couple of iterations.
Like you Andrew, I'd assumed that DX10 would be backwards compatible,
can't understand why MS wouldn't make it that way.
I'll give it a try tonight and see what happens.
I was wary of going Vista on my new machine, but I thought I'd bite the
bullet, as I've still got my XP disc, so could either revert to that or
maybe dual boot. I have to say though, that as yet, I've had no issues
with Vista (not quite a week in, so early days yet :-) ) It even seems
a bit quicker than XP, but that could just be down to it being a faster
machine, without years of ***on it, of course!!
--
Sean Black
>>> Just got a new PC with Vista, just trying out a few of my old sims to
>>> see how they go.
>>> Only one I've had any trouble with so far is Richard Burns Rally. Anyone
>>> managed to get it working on Vista?
>>> It installs, detects my video card (ATI 4850) but when I try to run it
>>> is says something along the lines of "No Direct3D card detected" and
>>> shuts down.
>> Don't have that game so can't say for sure but it may be because you
>> haven't installed Direrctx9 yet. Vista comes with Directx10 and is missing
>> a couple of files some Directx9 games need. Download dxwebsetup.exe from
>> Microsoft ands run that while online, it will install the files you may
>> need. You need to do this on Vista anyway even if that isn't what is
>> causing the issue with RBR as there are most definately games you will
>> probably come across that do need those files.
>For older games I also recommend that you install them under any
>directory except Program Files. This is because program files uses file
>virtualization which is supposed to be transparent, but isn't and ends
>up screwing up older games.
They are backwards compatible, except for DX10. It's mostly backwards
compatible but not completely. Once you run dxwebsetup.exe it is though.
Were you using older Nvidia video cards? I think Nvidia Vista drivers
with older Nvidia card may have been the issue and not Vista. Recently
tested out Nvidia 7950GX2 and it performed great in XP but was dismal on
Vista64 on the same PC. Swapped card for 8800GT and the performance on
both OS was comparable. That wasn't my PC though so should probably set
up dual boot on my PC that has Vista64 and ATI 4870 and see if there is a
difference or not. That requires a lot of work though but I guess I
should do it to find out for sure.
Yea, I don't install any games under default location either. The Program
Files (X86) is a protected folder too and I have read that can cause some
issues for older games that need admin access level.
>> I used to have Vista - twice. It kept suckering me in by its looks.
>> However, every time I went back to XP, pretty much all my games frame
>> rates went through the roof. These weren't minor changes either, these
>> were changes that was instantly noticeable
>> My brother also had the same thing happen to him, so he has now
>> ditched Vista too.
>> The scary bit is that all the so called 'review sites' claim that
>> games run at a similar speed on Vista, but given what me and my
>> brother have seen I can't see how that could be true.
>> Maybe it's because we were using the 32bit version? - Who knows.
>> RobP
> Were you using older Nvidia video cards? I think Nvidia Vista drivers
> with older Nvidia card may have been the issue and not Vista. Recently
> tested out Nvidia 7950GX2 and it performed great in XP but was dismal on
> Vista64 on the same PC. Swapped card for 8800GT and the performance on
> both OS was comparable. That wasn't my PC though so should probably set
> up dual boot on my PC that has Vista64 and ATI 4870 and see if there is a
> difference or not. That requires a lot of work though but I guess I
> should do it to find out for sure.
I'm a stickler for keeping everything up to date, so I'm sure it's no longer
a driver issue.
For the moment I have put my Vista disk out of my reach to prevent any
lapses! :)
RobP
>> Interesting. I hope to avoid Vista altogether, but if I don't that's a
>> useful bit of info to store away. I'd always assumed that each dx release
>> was backwards compatible for at least a couple of iterations.
>> Andrew McP
>They are backwards compatible, except for DX10. It's mostly backwards
>compatible but not completely. Once you run dxwebsetup.exe it is though.
Managed to download and run a direct x setup, but that still hasn't
helped, maybe it's an issue with the 4850 or the drivers?
Back to the drawing board.
--
Sean Black
> Only one I've had any trouble with so far is Richard Burns Rally. Anyone
> managed to get it working on Vista?
> It installs, detects my video card (ATI 4850) but when I try to run it
> is says something along the lines of "No Direct3D card detected" and
> shuts down.
>> Just got a new PC with Vista, just trying out a few of my old sims to
>> see how they go.
>> Only one I've had any trouble with so far is Richard Burns Rally. Anyone
>> managed to get it working on Vista?
>> It installs, detects my video card (ATI 4850) but when I try to run it
>> is says something along the lines of "No Direct3D card detected" and
>> shuts down.
>It works for me in Vista (NVidia card though). I don't think I had to do
>anything unusual to get it run. I thought RBR runs on anything - it even
>runs on Kubuntu :)
I tried the GTR2 demo and that work fine, so I'll probably get hold of
that (had the 1st one, never got around to picking up the second).
Anything else good out there? (Been out of the loop for a while due to
not having a decent enough machine to run much new stuff)
--
Sean Black
>>> Just got a new PC with Vista, just trying out a few of my old sims to
>>> see how they go.
>>> Only one I've had any trouble with so far is Richard Burns Rally. Anyone
>>> managed to get it working on Vista?
>>> It installs, detects my video card (ATI 4850) but when I try to run it
>>> is says something along the lines of "No Direct3D card detected" and
>>> shuts down.
>>It works for me in Vista (NVidia card though). I don't think I had to do
>>anything unusual to get it run. I thought RBR runs on anything - it even
>>runs on Kubuntu :)
> That's probably about right, always been an NVidia guy up until now, but I
> was recommended to go with the 4850 as it was the best bang for the buck
> at the minute and now I've found I've probably got the only card anywhere
> that RBR won't run on, LOL!!
> I tried the GTR2 demo and that work fine, so I'll probably get hold of
> that (had the 1st one, never got around to picking up the second).
> Anything else good out there? (Been out of the loop for a while due to not
> having a decent enough machine to run much new stuff)
> --
> Sean Black
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