Gran Turismo 4

discussed in 34 posts, 2003-2005 · overall tone positive

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Timeline

2004-09-24 Sony announced that Gran Turismo 4 would ship without online play. thread post
2005-02-25 Gran Turismo 4 was released in North America without the online play Sony had planned. post post post

Key threads

Steve Smith's first look at Gran Turismo 4 2005-02-25 · 72 posts
Steve Smith posted a first look at Gran Turismo 4, praising it as the best console racer while criticising Sony for dropping online play. Others debated the weak AI, gamepad versus wheel use, PC wheel compatibility on the PS2, and the upcoming Forza. Joe62 and Smith argued at length about whether publishers would pay for online play in console games.
Gran Turismo 4 to ship without online play 2004-09-24 · 47 posts
A cross-posted IGN report said Sony had announced at the Tokyo Game Show that Gran Turismo 4 would launch without online play, with a new B-Spec mode and a December Japanese release. Reactions ranged from shock to indifference, and the thread degenerated into an insult-filled argument between console posters over the value of online gaming, with some notes on LAN play over FireWire.
Forza Motorsport physics claims and E3 screenshots 2004-05-12 · 24 posts
Further details on Forza Motorsport were posted, including the developers' claims of a pure simulation engine and E3 photos of a three-screen, three-Xbox setup. Some welcomed big-publisher interest as good for sim racing, while others dismissed the physics claims as marketing like Gran Turismo's and stressed the need for raceable AI. A side discussion covered the 900-degree Logitech wheel for GT4 and real-car steering ratios.
Gran Turismo 4 screenshots and console versus PC 2003-05-03 · 92 posts
Posters were impressed by near-photorealistic Gran Turismo 4 screenshots, though some suspected they were pre-rendered. The long thread debated GT3's handling, poor AI and small fields against PC sims like NR2003 and GTR2002, along with planned GT4 online play and Sony and Microsoft's console strategies.
GT4 E3 video sparks PS2 versus Xbox debate 2004-05-19 · 60 posts
An E3 Gran Turismo 4 movie led to discussion about buying a PS2 just for GT, with many admitting they had done so for earlier GT games. The thread became a long console argument over Xbox versus PS2 graphics, sales figures, backward compatibility and the next-generation Xbox's rumoured PowerPC chip, with Steve Smith and Internet User trading barbs. A report that the Xbox outsold the PS2 in the US in April 2004 was posted.
GT4's missing cockpit view and what counts as a sim 2005-03-12 · 42 posts
A poster asked about Gran Turismo 4's driving views, and it was confirmed there was no in-car cockpit view, only a bumper or hood view. Some argued that a sim without a cockpit is not a simulation, while Joe62 and Dave argued that the dashboard adds little to realism. The debate widened into whether GT4's physics count as simulation and ended in insults.
Project Gotham Racing 3 screenshots and GT versus Forza 2005-05-14 · 36 posts
A cross-posted thread shared Project Gotham Racing 3 screenshots for the Xbox 360. It turned into an argument over whether Forza or Gran Turismo was the better console racer. Some pointed out that GPL on the PC is far more realistic than either, and Tony Rickard noted that the difficulty of sims reflects their realism.
Gran Turismo 4 E3 trailer and PGR2 comparison 2004-05-20 · 26 posts
A link to the GT4 E3 trailer drew praise for its Nurburgring footage and animated drivers, though some noted the replays look better than in-game graphics. Discussion compared GT3 with Project Gotham Racing 2 and TOCA Race Driver 2, debating whether GT counts as a sim given its lack of damage and cockpit view.
Gran Turismo 4 Mobile shown for Sony PSP 2004-05-11 · 23 posts
Screenshots of Gran Turismo 4 Mobile for the PSP were posted, with readers noting they were labelled 'screen image simulated'. Discussion drifted to claims that Sony consoles counted as supercomputers under export rules, clustered PlayStations, and whether the PSP had an analogue control suitable for a driving game.
Gran Turismo 4 impressions and the 'game versus sim' debate 2005-03-09 · 23 posts
Players enthused about Gran Turismo 4, especially driving the Nordschleife with a Driving Force Pro. One poster dismissed it as a kids' game because it had no cockpit view. Others argued over whether GT4 counts as a simulation, and one noted it could be played online through xLink Kai.