PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile
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Gran Turismo 4 Mobile shown for Sony PSP
Screenshots of Gran Turismo 4 Mobile for the PSP were posted, with readers noting they were labelled 'screen image simulated'. Discussion drifted to claims that Sony consoles counted as supercomputers under export rules, clustered PlayStations, and whether the PSP had an analogue control suitable for a driving game.
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[email hidden] (R420) wrote:
> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile
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> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg
> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg
> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg
"screen image simulated" - no shit!
Oh, and please don't cross-post. Follow-ups set to ugvp.
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R420 wrote:
> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile
>
> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg
> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg
> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg
It's great to see Gran Turismo on the PSP but it is important to point
out that the picture with the game running says 'screen image
simulated'. Hopefully it will look that great though :)
Jonsend wrote:
I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries
because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read
that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality
graphics. Now that's power!
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> R420 wrote: > >> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg > > > It's great to see Gran Turismo on the PSP but it is important to point > out that the picture with the game running says 'screen image > simulated'. Hopefully it will look that great though :)R420 wrote:
> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile
>
> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg
> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg
> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg
Oh my!
"Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Playstation2 is considered a supercomputer and was still sold...
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> Jonsend wrote: > > > R420 wrote: > > > >> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile > >> > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg > > > > > > It's great to see Gran Turismo on the PSP but it is important to point > > out that the picture with the game running says 'screen image > > simulated'. Hopefully it will look that great though :) > > I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries > because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read > that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality > graphics. Now that's power!
"Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Its not that big of a deal honestly, its more hype from them then anything.
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> Jonsend wrote: > > > R420 wrote: > > > >> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile > >> > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg > > > > > > It's great to see Gran Turismo on the PSP but it is important to point > > out that the picture with the game running says 'screen image > > simulated'. Hopefully it will look that great though :) > > I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries > because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read > that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality > graphics. Now that's power!
"Brenden D. Chase" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries
> > because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read
> > that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality
> > graphics. Now that's power!
> Playstation2 is considered a supercomputer and was still sold...
That was previous to September 11, 2001. Now PS2, XBox and other "dual
use" technology can't be legally exported to certain countries without
approval of the US government. There was a Law & Order episode about this
topic a couple months ago actually because their writers thought it an
interesting topic. Their writers had owners of a NY area toy store owner get
his house searched secretly by the FBI because they were exporting PS2s to
Albania in defiance of a US government order.
Now, having said that, I'm sure most countries where there would be more
than a few sales for PS2, XBox etc. are approved. While countries, like
Albania, wouldn't have much of a market anyway. Plus, Sony's a multinational
corporation based also in Japan. So, the Sony America branch won't be able
to export PSP etc. to any country they want without government approval, the
Japanese arm of Sony would, unless Japan's government has a similar
anti-terrorism law.
In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Chris Martin <[email hidden]> wrote:
You can be sure that the US would strongly reccomend to Japan that it
adopt the same restrictions regarding computer technology imports as the
US... Of course Japan hasn't always listend. I seem to recall a bit of a
disagreement between the US and Mitsubishi after it was discovered that
Mitsubishi was manufacturing submarine propellors for the USSR...
Despite all this, I really can't see the PSP being classified as a
"supercomputer" or containing enough technology to end up on the "do not
export" list.
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> Now, having said that, I'm sure most countries where there would be more > than a few sales for PS2, XBox etc. are approved. While countries, like > Albania, wouldn't have much of a market anyway. Plus, Sony's a multinational > corporation based also in Japan. So, the Sony America branch won't be able > to export PSP etc. to any country they want without government approval, the > Japanese arm of Sony would, unless Japan's government has a similar > anti-terrorism law.Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Tue, 11 May
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<[email hidden]> fornis do marikano es bono tan el:
>I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries
>because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read
>that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality
>graphics. Now that's power!
lol
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:58:46 -0400, Internet User <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries
>because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read
>that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality
>graphics. Now that's power!
Don't believe all you read in Sony marketing hype.
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Although the "supercomputer"-thing sounds laughable, read
THIS:
http://www.insiderreports.com/storypage.asp_Q_ChanID_E_WB_A_StoryID_E_20006927
70 PS's clustered, half-a-trillion operations per second.
Not so laughable anymore? <G>
On Tue, 11 May 2004 23:15:31 -0400, "Brenden D. Chase"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
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> >"Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Jonsend wrote: >> >> > R420 wrote: >> > >> >> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile >> >> >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg >> > >> > >> > It's great to see Gran Turismo on the PSP but it is important to point >> > out that the picture with the game running says 'screen image >> > simulated'. Hopefully it will look that great though :) >> >> I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries >> because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read >> that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality >> graphics. Now that's power! > >Playstation2 is considered a supercomputer and was still sold... > >On Wed, 12 May 2004 11:36:25 +0200, Anotherinternetuser wrote:
>70 PS's clustered, half-a-trillion operations per second.
>Not so laughable anymore? <G>
Exactly, a single machine isn't anywhere close to being a
supercomputer, and that concept isn't anything that can't be done a
lot easier on PC's.
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[email hidden] (R420) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile
>
> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg
> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg
> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg
Explain to me.. despite cool graphics, how can it be a
driving *sim* without _at least_ an analog controller?
D-Pads just don't cut it for anything more than very
arcadey racers on rails.
Bram wrote:
The PSP has an analogue controller.
Zo
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> [email hidden] (R420) wrote in message > news:<[email hidden]>... >> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg > > Explain to me.. despite cool graphics, how can it be a > driving *sim* without _at least_ an analog controller? > D-Pads just don't cut it for anything more than very > arcadey racers on rails.
"Zomoniac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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And where is this analogue controller?
Not that I don't think a driving sim can't be controlled by the d-pad,
'cause I'm sure all buttons will be pressure sensetive, so it's *sort of*
analogue.
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> Bram wrote: > > [email hidden] (R420) wrote in message > > news:<[email hidden]>... > >> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile > >> > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg > > > > Explain to me.. despite cool graphics, how can it be a > > driving *sim* without _at least_ an analog controller? > > D-Pads just don't cut it for anything more than very > > arcadey racers on rails. > > The PSP has an analogue controller.If you've got enough brains to cluster playstations, why not just buy some
normal processing chips and do it the easy way???
<Anotherinternetuser> wrote in message
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> Although the "supercomputer"-thing sounds laughable, read
> THIS:
>
>http://www.insiderreports.com/storypage.asp_Q_ChanID_E_WB_A_StoryID_E_20006927
point
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> > 70 PS's clustered, half-a-trillion operations per second. > Not so laughable anymore? <G> > > > On Tue, 11 May 2004 23:15:31 -0400, "Brenden D. Chase" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >"Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> Jonsend wrote: > >> > >> > R420 wrote: > >> > > >> >> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile > >> >> > >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg > >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg > >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg > >> > > >> > > >> > It's great to see Gran Turismo on the PSP but it is important toQuoted text (12 lines)
> >> > out that the picture with the game running says 'screen image > >> > simulated'. Hopefully it will look that great though :) > >> > >> I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries > >> because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read > >> that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality > >> graphics. Now that's power! > > > >Playstation2 is considered a supercomputer and was still sold... > > > > >In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Brenden D. Chase <[email hidden]> wrote:
> If you've got enough brains to cluster playstations, why not just buy some
> normal processing chips and do it the easy way???
It's cheaper to use Playstations?
Playstation, being "just a toy", might not attract the attention of
customs agents?
On Thu, 13 May 2004 06:06:38 -0000, Doug Jacobs
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>It's cheaper to use Playstations?
Not once you buy the equipment to make them act as computers.
>Playstation, being "just a toy", might not attract the attention of
>customs agents?
You think you can't buy PC's everywhere in the world?
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Tommy Stenberg wrote:
It's under the D-pad.
Zo
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> "Zomoniac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> Bram wrote: >>> [email hidden] (R420) wrote in message >>> news:<[email hidden]>... >>>> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile >>>> >>>> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg >>>> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg >>>> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg >>> >>> Explain to me.. despite cool graphics, how can it be a >>> driving *sim* without _at least_ an analog controller? >>> D-Pads just don't cut it for anything more than very >>> arcadey racers on rails. >> >> The PSP has an analogue controller. > > And where is this analogue controller? > > Not that I don't think a driving sim can't be controlled by the d-pad, > 'cause I'm sure all buttons will be pressure sensetive, so it's *sort > of* analogue. > > Tommy > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.683 / Virus Database: 445 - Release Date: 21.09.2004In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Andrew <spamtrap@localhost> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 May 2004 06:06:38 -0000, Doug Jacobs
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >It's cheaper to use Playstations?
> Not once you buy the equipment to make them act as computers.
It's a bit hard to come up with a full PC that's as powerful as the PS2
for less than $150.
> >Playstation, being "just a toy", might not attract the attention of
> >customs agents?
> You think you can't buy PC's everywhere in the world?
Yes, actually, there are rather strict export laws regarding the sale of
computer equipment to certain countries - especially those located in the
mid-east and to China.
One company I used to work for ran afoul of these when it tried to sell
its product - based on a 150Mhz MIPS processor - into Mongolia. They were
eventually allowed to fulfil the order, but it took dozens of forms and a
few months of government beuracracy. The main problem was that the
product was a Linux-based web server that was capable of using
encryption methods that used more than 32bits. (SSL uses 64 or 128 bits.)
This was back in '98. A bit later, the PS2 was announced, and also
classified by the US Gov't as falling into the same category computer
technology not allowed to be exported to "hostile" countries.
On Fri, 14 May 2004 02:17:16 -0000, Doug Jacobs
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>This was back in '98. A bit later, the PS2 was announced, and also
>classified by the US Gov't as falling into the same category computer
>technology not allowed to be exported to "hostile" countries.
Thats only because the government fell for the Sony marketing hype as
much as the consumers. Try bringing your arguments into the 21st
century and learn that China do actually have PC's.
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In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Andrew <spamtrap@localhost> wrote:
I never said China doesn't have PCs. I only said that certain equipment
and software is still restricted from being exported in China and other
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