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PSP GT4 Mobile !!!!

23 posts by 15 people · 11 May 2004 21:38 UTC - 14 May 2004 19:08 UTC

Gran Turismo 4 Mobile shown for Sony PSP

Screenshots of Gran Turismo 4 Mobile for the PSP were posted, with readers noting they were labelled 'screen image simulated'. Discussion drifted to claims that Sony consoles counted as supercomputers under export rules, clustered PlayStations, and whether the PSP had an analogue control suitable for a driving game.

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Dr. Boggis 11 May 2004 21:49 UTC↳ reply to R420#37802
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (R420) wrote: > PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile > > http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg > http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg > http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg "screen image simulated" - no shit! Oh, and please don't cross-post. Follow-ups set to ugvp. -- -Take out Ron to reply- Votre m�re �tait un hamster et votre p�re a senti des baies de sureau
Jonsend wrote:
Quoted text (12 lines)> R420 wrote: > >> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg > > > It's great to see Gran Turismo on the PSP but it is important to point > out that the picture with the game running says 'screen image > simulated'. Hopefully it will look that great though :)
I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality graphics. Now that's power!
"Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (19 lines)> Jonsend wrote: > > > R420 wrote: > > > >> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile > >> > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg > > > > > > It's great to see Gran Turismo on the PSP but it is important to point > > out that the picture with the game running says 'screen image > > simulated'. Hopefully it will look that great though :) > > I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries > because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read > that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality > graphics. Now that's power!
Playstation2 is considered a supercomputer and was still sold...
"Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (19 lines)> Jonsend wrote: > > > R420 wrote: > > > >> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile > >> > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg > > > > > > It's great to see Gran Turismo on the PSP but it is important to point > > out that the picture with the game running says 'screen image > > simulated'. Hopefully it will look that great though :) > > I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries > because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read > that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality > graphics. Now that's power!
Its not that big of a deal honestly, its more hype from them then anything.
"Brenden D. Chase" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mFgoc.12662$Lm3.1495@lakeread04... > > I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries > > because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read > > that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality > > graphics. Now that's power! > Playstation2 is considered a supercomputer and was still sold... That was previous to September 11, 2001. Now PS2, XBox and other "dual use" technology can't be legally exported to certain countries without approval of the US government. There was a Law & Order episode about this topic a couple months ago actually because their writers thought it an interesting topic. Their writers had owners of a NY area toy store owner get his house searched secretly by the FBI because they were exporting PS2s to Albania in defiance of a US government order. Now, having said that, I'm sure most countries where there would be more than a few sales for PS2, XBox etc. are approved. While countries, like Albania, wouldn't have much of a market anyway. Plus, Sony's a multinational corporation based also in Japan. So, the Sony America branch won't be able to export PSP etc. to any country they want without government approval, the Japanese arm of Sony would, unless Japan's government has a similar anti-terrorism law.
In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Chris Martin <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> Now, having said that, I'm sure most countries where there would be more > than a few sales for PS2, XBox etc. are approved. While countries, like > Albania, wouldn't have much of a market anyway. Plus, Sony's a multinational > corporation based also in Japan. So, the Sony America branch won't be able > to export PSP etc. to any country they want without government approval, the > Japanese arm of Sony would, unless Japan's government has a similar > anti-terrorism law.
You can be sure that the US would strongly reccomend to Japan that it adopt the same restrictions regarding computer technology imports as the US... Of course Japan hasn't always listend. I seem to recall a bit of a disagreement between the US and Mitsubishi after it was discovered that Mitsubishi was manufacturing submarine propellors for the USSR... Despite all this, I really can't see the PSP being classified as a "supercomputer" or containing enough technology to end up on the "do not export" list.
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On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:58:46 -0400, Internet User <[email hidden]> wrote: >I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries >because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read >that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality >graphics. Now that's power! Don't believe all you read in Sony marketing hype. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.
Although the "supercomputer"-thing sounds laughable, read THIS: http://www.insiderreports.com/storypage.asp_Q_ChanID_E_WB_A_StoryID_E_20006927 70 PS's clustered, half-a-trillion operations per second. Not so laughable anymore? <G> On Tue, 11 May 2004 23:15:31 -0400, "Brenden D. Chase" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (26 lines)> >"Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Jonsend wrote: >> >> > R420 wrote: >> > >> >> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile >> >> >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg >> > >> > >> > It's great to see Gran Turismo on the PSP but it is important to point >> > out that the picture with the game running says 'screen image >> > simulated'. Hopefully it will look that great though :) >> >> I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries >> because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read >> that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality >> graphics. Now that's power! > >Playstation2 is considered a supercomputer and was still sold... > >
On Wed, 12 May 2004 11:36:25 +0200, Anotherinternetuser wrote: >70 PS's clustered, half-a-trillion operations per second. >Not so laughable anymore? <G> Exactly, a single machine isn't anywhere close to being a supercomputer, and that concept isn't anything that can't be done a lot easier on PC's. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.
Bram 12 May 2004 15:15 UTC↳ reply to R420#37723
[email hidden] (R420) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile > > http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg > http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg > http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg Explain to me.. despite cool graphics, how can it be a driving *sim* without _at least_ an analog controller? D-Pads just don't cut it for anything more than very arcadey racers on rails.
Zomoniac 12 May 2004 15:16 UTC↳ reply to Bram#37725
Bram wrote:
Quoted text (12 lines)> [email hidden] (R420) wrote in message > news:<[email hidden]>... >> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg > > Explain to me.. despite cool graphics, how can it be a > driving *sim* without _at least_ an analog controller? > D-Pads just don't cut it for anything more than very > arcadey racers on rails.
The PSP has an analogue controller. Zo
"Zomoniac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)> Bram wrote: > > [email hidden] (R420) wrote in message > > news:<[email hidden]>... > >> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile > >> > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg > >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg > > > > Explain to me.. despite cool graphics, how can it be a > > driving *sim* without _at least_ an analog controller? > > D-Pads just don't cut it for anything more than very > > arcadey racers on rails. > > The PSP has an analogue controller.
And where is this analogue controller? Not that I don't think a driving sim can't be controlled by the d-pad, 'cause I'm sure all buttons will be pressure sensetive, so it's *sort of* analogue. Tommy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.683 / Virus Database: 445 - Release Date: 21.09.2004
If you've got enough brains to cluster playstations, why not just buy some normal processing chips and do it the easy way??? <Anotherinternetuser> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Although the "supercomputer"-thing sounds laughable, read > THIS: > >http://www.insiderreports.com/storypage.asp_Q_ChanID_E_WB_A_StoryID_E_20006927
Quoted text (23 lines)> > 70 PS's clustered, half-a-trillion operations per second. > Not so laughable anymore? <G> > > > On Tue, 11 May 2004 23:15:31 -0400, "Brenden D. Chase" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >"Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> Jonsend wrote: > >> > >> > R420 wrote: > >> > > >> >> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile > >> >> > >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg > >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg > >> >> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg > >> > > >> > > >> > It's great to see Gran Turismo on the PSP but it is important to
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Quoted text (12 lines)> >> > out that the picture with the game running says 'screen image > >> > simulated'. Hopefully it will look that great though :) > >> > >> I heard that Sony won't be allowed to sell the PSP to certain countries > >> because it will be classified as a supercomputer. Wow! I also read > >> that this thing will be able to generate real time, Toy Story quality > >> graphics. Now that's power! > > > >Playstation2 is considered a supercomputer and was still sold... > > > > >
In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Brenden D. Chase <[email hidden]> wrote: > If you've got enough brains to cluster playstations, why not just buy some > normal processing chips and do it the easy way??? It's cheaper to use Playstations? Playstation, being "just a toy", might not attract the attention of customs agents?
On Thu, 13 May 2004 06:06:38 -0000, Doug Jacobs <[email hidden]> wrote: >It's cheaper to use Playstations? Not once you buy the equipment to make them act as computers. >Playstation, being "just a toy", might not attract the attention of >customs agents? You think you can't buy PC's everywhere in the world? -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.
Tommy Stenberg wrote:
Quoted text (31 lines)> "Zomoniac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> Bram wrote: >>> [email hidden] (R420) wrote in message >>> news:<[email hidden]>... >>>> PSP (Playstation Portable) Gran Turismo 4 Mobile >>>> >>>> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450999_2.jpg >>>> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/09/ME0000450998_2.jpg >>>> http://img.gamekult.com/photos/00/00/45/10/ME0000451000_2.jpg >>> >>> Explain to me.. despite cool graphics, how can it be a >>> driving *sim* without _at least_ an analog controller? >>> D-Pads just don't cut it for anything more than very >>> arcadey racers on rails. >> >> The PSP has an analogue controller. > > And where is this analogue controller? > > Not that I don't think a driving sim can't be controlled by the d-pad, > 'cause I'm sure all buttons will be pressure sensetive, so it's *sort > of* analogue. > > Tommy > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.683 / Virus Database: 445 - Release Date: 21.09.2004
It's under the D-pad. Zo
In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Andrew <spamtrap@localhost> wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 2004 06:06:38 -0000, Doug Jacobs > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >It's cheaper to use Playstations? > Not once you buy the equipment to make them act as computers. It's a bit hard to come up with a full PC that's as powerful as the PS2 for less than $150. > >Playstation, being "just a toy", might not attract the attention of > >customs agents? > You think you can't buy PC's everywhere in the world? Yes, actually, there are rather strict export laws regarding the sale of computer equipment to certain countries - especially those located in the mid-east and to China. One company I used to work for ran afoul of these when it tried to sell its product - based on a 150Mhz MIPS processor - into Mongolia. They were eventually allowed to fulfil the order, but it took dozens of forms and a few months of government beuracracy. The main problem was that the product was a Linux-based web server that was capable of using encryption methods that used more than 32bits. (SSL uses 64 or 128 bits.) This was back in '98. A bit later, the PS2 was announced, and also classified by the US Gov't as falling into the same category computer technology not allowed to be exported to "hostile" countries.
On Fri, 14 May 2004 02:17:16 -0000, Doug Jacobs <[email hidden]> wrote: >This was back in '98. A bit later, the PS2 was announced, and also >classified by the US Gov't as falling into the same category computer >technology not allowed to be exported to "hostile" countries. Thats only because the government fell for the Sony marketing hype as much as the consumers. Try bringing your arguments into the 21st century and learn that China do actually have PC's. -- Andrew. To email unscramble [email hidden] & remove spamtrap. Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards, please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevant text. Check groups.google.com before asking a question.
In alt.games.video.sony-playstation2 Andrew <spamtrap@localhost> wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)> On Fri, 14 May 2004 02:17:16 -0000, Doug Jacobs > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >This was back in '98. A bit later, the PS2 was announced, and also > >classified by the US Gov't as falling into the same category computer > >technology not allowed to be exported to "hostile" countries. > Thats only because the government fell for the Sony marketing hype as > much as the consumers. Try bringing your arguments into the 21st > century and learn that China do actually have PC's.
I never said China doesn't have PCs. I only said that certain equipment and software is still restricted from being exported in China and other countries.

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