Re: David Noonan's converter finally available!

Andre, Thanks for posting the fix...I go try it now! -- don "Getting hit by a meteorite is an accident... everything else is driver-error." "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Woops, seems to be a problem when ordering online, Noonan sends the > converter by mail after receiving payment, but you can only select > 'standard shipment' in the form. > When I clicked 'Buy now' I got a warning, something like 'product > cannot be shipped, please choose another shipping method'. > But you can't select another payment method. Great. > > I clicked 'Ship To different address', then clicked 'Ship to billing > address' on the next screen, and after that I selected 'Buy now'. > Then I passed succesfully. > > Makes no sense, but I just got a confirmation by email, so it worked. > > Andre > > > On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:25:29 +0100, Andre Warringa > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Just saw a new demo by coincidence at www.theuspits.com. > >You can buy the converter here: http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/ > >Price for the converter is 15 UK pound. > >My order is allready underway :) > > > >Andre >

On 23 Mar 2000 02:54:00 GMT, [email hidden] (Tony StewartNo20) wrote: >man that thing is too expensive here 24 us dollars >THATS CONSIDERD AS A RIP-OFF No, you are 'considerd' to be an idiot. -- * rrev at mindspring dot com *

Didn't work...it won't take my order....sad movies I guess... "don hodgdon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8bc0t7$jtg$[email hidden]...

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> Andre, Thanks for posting the fix...I go try it now! > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Woops, seems to be a problem when ordering online, Noonan sends the > > converter by mail after receiving payment, but you can only select > > 'standard shipment' in the form. > > When I clicked 'Buy now' I got a warning, something like 'product > > cannot be shipped, please choose another shipping method'. > > But you can't select another payment method. Great. > > > > I clicked 'Ship To different address', then clicked 'Ship to billing > > address' on the next screen, and after that I selected 'Buy now'. > > Then I passed succesfully. > > > > Makes no sense, but I just got a confirmation by email, so it worked. > > > > Andre > > > > > > On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:25:29 +0100, Andre Warringa > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Just saw a new demo by coincidence at www.theuspits.com. > > >You can buy the converter here: http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/ > > >Price for the converter is 15 UK pound. > > >My order is allready underway :) > > > > > >Andre > > > >

On the following date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:49:12 GMT, said person(s) Chuck Kandler <[email hidden]> stated: >Yep. It's wrong for him to kill. But it's not wrong for the state to >do the same to him. Bloomin hipocrites! Yeah.. sure.. and if it was YOUR son, daughter, or wife this "mentally-ill" person killed? Eye for an eye bubba - James "Gunslinger" Wohlever [email hidden] Techware Computer Services http://techware.gtinsider.com Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to: [email hidden]

Tony StewartNo20 wrote: > man that thing is too expensive here 24 us dollars > THATS CONSIDERD AS A RIP-OFF Dave Noonan probably spent thousands of hours on this project and his other free tracks (Brands Hatch and the O-Ring). I doubt that he will make more than a $1.00 an hour for his incredible efforts. If you consider it too expensive, don't buy it. Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************

>You really don't get it, do you? Actually I think the guy has a point, after all everyone here is rationalising their downloading of F12K because they "wanted to try it before buying". In principle there's no difference between downloading a warez version of F12K and a warez version of the converter, provided they buy it at a later date or delete all the converted tracks. Nobody who has downloaded the warez version of F12K can argue with that... -- Cheers! Graeme Nash // Just about to place my order for the converter...

On Thu 23 Mar 2000 09:41:55a, Andre Warringa wrote: >Because in the age of internet and online ordering, everyone has a >credit card?<snip> LOL! -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

LOL! If Mr. Noonan gets sufficient orders to buy a Ferrari, vintage or otherwise, then good luck to him, I say. He's done more for the GPL fraternity since the sim's release than Papyrus have. Andrew MacPherson wrote:

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> > THATS CONSIDERD AS A RIP-OFF > > When I see a link to "Dave Noonan's Vintage Ferrari Collection Homepage" > I'll worry. 15 quid's only 3 hours' wages for me. If I don't get at > *least* 30 hour's entertainment out of just Laguna Seca and Mid Ohio then > I'll eat my hat! > > Well, I'll have to buy a hat first, but with the state of my hairline > these days it's probably about time I bought one anyway... Mmm, so I guess > I need 2 hats, one to eat, one to wear. > > Sheesh, this is getting expensive. IT'S A RIPOFF! > > Andrew McP... checking his mailbox every ten minutes. Hang on, that's 5p > per phone call... THIS IS A RIPOFF! > > PS If anyone can remind me where I put one of my 2 ICR2 CDs I'll be very > grateful!

It worked!!!! Yippee!!! Riverside here I come!!! Thanks Dave, Alison, Gregor, Wolfgang, The Pits and all those who have added to THE BEST sim around! There goes what's left of my social life<g>. -- don [|]-(_)-[|] Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Don, leave the Country field on UK, I think it will work that way... >

man that thing is too expensive here 24 us dollars THATS CONSIDERD AS A RIP-OFF

On Thu 23 Mar 2000 02:25:29a, Andre Warringa wrote: >Just saw a new demo by coincidence at www.theuspits.com. >You can buy the converter here: http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/ >Price for the converter is 15 UK pound. >My order is allready underway :) > >Andre To save people wasting their time, I'll repeat my earlier point here - you *must* use a credit card or Switch to order. You *cannot* order by cash, cheque or PO. (Why not?) -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

On Thu 23 Mar 2000 04:47:43a, David Karr wrote: <snip> >PS: Sorries to the rest of the group, but here in Tenn., us >so-called "liberals" are under stress these days. The state's >fixing to, ahem, "execute" (oh, lovely euphamism) an inmate. I am a >bit distressed. <snip> Surely they're not going to kill someone for being a liberal? Even in America? -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Surely they're not going to kill someone for being a liberal? Even in America? >>>>>>>>NO! Being a liberal is punishment enough! Rik Anthrax - - "trust the government?? what are you, some kind of moron?" "Cato was right."

> THATS CONSIDERD AS A RIP-OFF When I see a link to "Dave Noonan's Vintage Ferrari Collection Homepage" I'll worry. 15 quid's only 3 hours' wages for me. If I don't get at *least* 30 hour's entertainment out of just Laguna Seca and Mid Ohio then I'll eat my hat! Well, I'll have to buy a hat first, but with the state of my hairline these days it's probably about time I bought one anyway... Mmm, so I guess I need 2 hats, one to eat, one to wear. Sheesh, this is getting expensive. IT'S A RIPOFF! Andrew McP... checking his mailbox every ten minutes. Hang on, that's 5p per phone call... THIS IS A RIPOFF! PS If anyone can remind me where I put one of my 2 ICR2 CDs I'll be very grateful!

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>I've got no problem at all paying for the converter, probably worth >every penny! One small, nitpicky detail though. Why do I, as a >non-UK citizen/resident, have to pay a UK tax? Usually, when >purchasing goods by mail order or online from another >state/province/country, one does not pay the tax of that jurisdiction. >It's been a few years since I've travelled to the UK and Europe, but I >even seem to recall that on any purchases I made while there, I was >able to claim some kind of rebate upon departure and got a refund of >all the sales taxes I had paid while there (with receipts). Anyone >know how this works?

If you're having the product "exported" outside the EU, it should be VAt exempt. Z. Please remove my_pants when replying.

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> >I've got no problem at all paying for the converter, probably worth >every penny! One small, nitpicky detail though. Why do I, as a >non-UK citizen/resident, have to pay a UK tax? Usually, when >purchasing goods by mail order or online from another >state/province/country, one does not pay the tax of that jurisdiction. >It's been a few years since I've travelled to the UK and Europe, but I >even seem to recall that on any purchases I made while there, I was >able to claim some kind of rebate upon departure and got a refund of >all the sales taxes I had paid while there (with receipts). Anyone >know how this works? >

Recaculate the order after setting shippign Country. Vat will disappear. Z. Please remove my_pants when replying.

Just saw a new demo by coincidence at www.theuspits.com. You can buy the converter here: http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/ Price for the converter is 15 UK pound. My order is allready underway :) Andre

Here's a quote from the site, AI for the ovals! ----- It has taken over a year to develop this program and a very large percentage of the time taken has been spent on the AI. Many hundreds of laps have been driven at these tracks in testing and although I would not pretend the AI are 100% perfect, you should be able to race and battle the AI at all the tracks. ----- Andre

Woops, seems to be a problem when ordering online, Noonan sends the converter by mail after receiving payment, but you can only select 'standard shipment' in the form. When I clicked 'Buy now' I got a warning, something like 'product cannot be shipped, please choose another shipping method'. But you can't select another payment method. Great. I clicked 'Ship To different address', then clicked 'Ship to billing address' on the next screen, and after that I selected 'Buy now'. Then I passed succesfully. Makes no sense, but I just got a confirmation by email, so it worked. Andre On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:25:29 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: >Just saw a new demo by coincidence at www.theuspits.com. >You can buy the converter here: http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/ >Price for the converter is 15 UK pound. >My order is allready underway :) > >Andre

Oh, and here's a list of all the track including pictures. And yes, Riverside is included :) http://www.hondafreek.clara.net/converter.htm Andre

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> On 23 Mar 2000 02:54:00 GMT, [email hidden] (Tony StewartNo20) wrote: > > >man that thing is too expensive here 24 us dollars > >THATS CONSIDERD AS A RIP-OFF > > No, you are 'considerd' to be an idiot. > > -- > * rrev at mindspring dot com *

Ditto. Marty

same here...:( don hodgdon <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8bc272$c3r$[email hidden]...

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> Didn't work...it won't take my order....sad movies I guess... > > > "don hodgdon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8bc0t7$jtg$[email hidden]... > > Andre, Thanks for posting the fix...I go try it now! > > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Woops, seems to be a problem when ordering online, Noonan sends the > > > converter by mail after receiving payment, but you can only select > > > 'standard shipment' in the form. > > > When I clicked 'Buy now' I got a warning, something like 'product > > > cannot be shipped, please choose another shipping method'. > > > But you can't select another payment method. Great. > > > > > > I clicked 'Ship To different address', then clicked 'Ship to billing > > > address' on the next screen, and after that I selected 'Buy now'. > > > Then I passed succesfully. > > > > > > Makes no sense, but I just got a confirmation by email, so it worked. > > > > > > Andre > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:25:29 +0100, Andre Warringa > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > >Just saw a new demo by coincidence at www.theuspits.com. > > > >You can buy the converter here: http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/ > > > >Price for the converter is 15 UK pound. > > > >My order is allready underway :) > > > > > > > >Andre > > > > > > > > >

great... can someone finally work on a GPL Mosport to N3 converter please? Andre Warringa wrote:

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> > Just saw a new demo by coincidence at www.theuspits.com. > You can buy the converter here: http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/ > Price for the converter is 15 UK pound. > My order is allready underway :) > > Andre

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Oh fucking shut fucking up! or *plonk* in other words --DK PS: Sorries to the rest of the group, but here in Tenn., us so-called "liberals" are under stress these days. The state's fixing to, ahem, "execute" (oh, lovely euphamism) an inmate. I am a bit distressed. "Tony StewartNo20" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > man that thing is too expensive here 24 us dollars > THATS CONSIDERD AS A RIP-OFF

Ahem--"So-called liberal." And not yet anyway. But that wish has been expressed on a local paper's message board. But they will kill the mentally-ill. . . .I'm sorry, did I write "kill"? Obviously, that should be "execute." --DK "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Thu 23 Mar 2000 04:47:43a, David Karr wrote: > > <snip> > >PS: Sorries to the rest of the group, but here in Tenn., us > >so-called "liberals" are under stress these days. The state's > >fixing to, ahem, "execute" (oh, lovely euphamism) an inmate. I am a > >bit distressed. > <snip> > > Surely they're not going to kill someone for being a liberal? Even in > America? > > -- > David. > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, > really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

I've got no problem at all paying for the converter, probably worth every penny! One small, nitpicky detail though. Why do I, as a non-UK citizen/resident, have to pay a UK tax? Usually, when purchasing goods by mail order or online from another state/province/country, one does not pay the tax of that jurisdiction. It's been a few years since I've travelled to the UK and Europe, but I even seem to recall that on any purchases I made while there, I was able to claim some kind of rebate upon departure and got a refund of all the sales taxes I had paid while there (with receipts). Anyone know how this works? Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: >Just saw a new demo by coincidence at www.theuspits.com. >You can buy the converter here: http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/ >Price for the converter is 15 UK pound. >My order is allready underway :) > >Andre

You took the words out of my mouth... man! Andre On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:01:29 -0600, rrevved <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On 23 Mar 2000 02:54:00 GMT, [email hidden] (Tony StewartNo20) wrote: > >>man that thing is too expensive here 24 us dollars >>THATS CONSIDERD AS A RIP-OFF > >No, you are 'considerd' to be an idiot. > >-- >* rrev at mindspring dot com *

Too bad it doesn't work, frustrating, isn't it? Yesterday I did it exactly like I described, but the whole thing didn't make sense too me too, so I'm not too much surprised it doesn't work. Have you mailed the customer support about this? There's a link to customer support on the order page. Andre PS Or you can buy it from me for 30 UK pound, cash accepted. NOW THAT'S A RIPP-OFF TONY !!!! :))) Andre On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:15:36 -0800, "don hodgdon" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Didn't work...it won't take my order....sad movies I guess... > >

Leo, because I consider you as a friend, you can buy it for 35 UK pound from me... Hey Tony, for you it's 50 UK pound. :)) Andre On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:40:07 GMT, "leo" <[email hidden]> wrote: >same here...:( >

Because in the age of internet and online ordering, everyone has a credit card? Andre On 23 Mar 2000 05:05:40 GMT, [email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote:

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>To save people wasting their time, I'll repeat my earlier point here - >you *must* use a credit card or Switch to order. You *cannot* order by >cash, cheque or PO. (Why not?) > >-- >David. >"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, >really." >(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Don, leave the Country field on UK, I think it will work that way... Andre On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:15:36 -0800, "don hodgdon" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Didn't work...it won't take my order....sad movies I guess... > > >"don hodgdon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:8bc0t7$jtg$[email hidden]... >> Andre, Thanks for posting the fix...I go try it now! > >> "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> > Woops, seems to be a problem when ordering online, Noonan sends the >> > converter by mail after receiving payment, but you can only select >> > 'standard shipment' in the form. >> > When I clicked 'Buy now' I got a warning, something like 'product >> > cannot be shipped, please choose another shipping method'. >> > But you can't select another payment method. Great. >> > >> > I clicked 'Ship To different address', then clicked 'Ship to billing >> > address' on the next screen, and after that I selected 'Buy now'. >> > Then I passed succesfully. >> > >> > Makes no sense, but I just got a confirmation by email, so it worked. >> > >> > Andre >> > >> > >> > On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 03:25:29 +0100, Andre Warringa >> > <[email hidden]> wrote: >> > >> > >Just saw a new demo by coincidence at www.theuspits.com. >> > >You can buy the converter here: http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/ >> > >Price for the converter is 15 UK pound. >> > >My order is allready underway :) >> > > >> > >Andre >> > >> >> > >

>>>>> "Andre" == Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> writes: Andre> Just saw a new demo by coincidence at www.theuspits.com. Andre> You can buy the converter here: Andre> http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/ Price for the converter is 15 Andre> UK pound. My order is allready underway :) Hm, how about some posts a warez version first so we can try? After all, that seems to be ok with F1 2000... -peter

<snip> <snip> Surely they're not going to kill someone for being a liberal? Even in America? -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

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>I've got no problem at all paying for the converter, probably worth >every penny! One small, nitpicky detail though. Why do I, as a >non-UK citizen/resident, have to pay a UK tax? Usually, when >purchasing goods by mail order or online from another >state/province/country, one does not pay the tax of that jurisdiction. >It's been a few years since I've travelled to the UK and Europe, but I >even seem to recall that on any purchases I made while there, I was >able to claim some kind of rebate upon departure and got a refund of >all the sales taxes I had paid while there (with receipts). Anyone >know how this works?

If you're having the product "exported" outside the EU, it should be VAt exempt. Z. Please remove my_pants when replying.

I guess it is a ripoff. RC <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > I've got no problem at all paying for the converter, probably worth > every penny! One small, nitpicky detail though. Why do I, as a > non-UK citizen/resident, have to pay a UK tax? Usually, when > purchasing goods by mail order or online from another > state/province/country, one does not pay the tax of that jurisdiction. > It's been a few years since I've travelled to the UK and Europe, but I > even seem to recall that on any purchases I made while there, I was > able to claim some kind of rebate upon departure and got a refund of > all the sales taxes I had paid while there (with receipts). Anyone > know how this works? > > > > > > Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Just saw a new demo by coincidence at www.theuspits.com. > >You can buy the converter here: http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/ > >Price for the converter is 15 UK pound. > >My order is allready underway :) > > > >Andre > > >

Oh please. "Rikanthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Surely they're not going to kill someone for being a liberal? Even in > America? > >>>>>>>> > NO! > Being a liberal is punishment enough! > > Rik Anthrax > - > - > "trust the government?? what are you, some kind of moron?" > "Cato was right."

You really don't get it, do you? Andre On 23 Mar 2000 12:43:23 +0100, Leela <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>>>>>> "Andre" == Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> writes: > > Andre> Just saw a new demo by coincidence at www.theuspits.com. > Andre> You can buy the converter here: > Andre> http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/ Price for the converter is 15 > Andre> UK pound. My order is allready underway :) > >Hm, how about some posts a warez version first so we can try? After >all, that seems to be ok with F1 2000... > >-peter

I set my check mail at every 2 minutes, but still haven't received it... 11 hours left before the 24 delivery hours are over... Me? Impatient? Nooo.... Andre On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 07:02:30 -0800, "don hodgdon" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>It worked!!!! Yippee!!! Riverside here I come!!! Thanks Dave, Alison, >Gregor, Wolfgang, The Pits and all those who have added to THE BEST sim >around! > >There goes what's left of my social life<g>. >-- >don > >[|]-(_)-[|] > >Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Don, leave the Country field on UK, I think it will work that way... >> > > >

>>>>> "Andre" == Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> writes: >> Hm, how about some posts a warez version first so we can try? >> After all, that seems to be ok with F1 2000... Andre> You really don't get it, do you? Andre Actually I do. First of all, it was a joke, I'm sorry for not including the smiley. It was also not directed to you personally, just a follow-up to the first posting. Having said that, it is quite simple. You either think using warez is ok, and then it doesn't matter if you buy the game or not. Or you think it is not ok, and then you wait for the demo and then decide to either buy or ignore the game. All the justifications are just selfish excuses. One can always think of a reason why one is so important that one can steal something, or copy it, or rip it off, or whatever instead of getting it through legal means. It is just very convenient to bend the rules in your own favour, isn't it, and besides, noone really gets hurt or loses money, right? Oh, and please explain why "I really don't get it"... -peter

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> > Ahem--"So-called liberal." And not yet anyway. But that wish has been > expressed on a local paper's message board. > > But they will kill the mentally-ill. > > . . .I'm sorry, did I write "kill"? Obviously, that should be "execute." > > --DK

Yep. It's wrong for him to kill. But it's not wrong for the state to do the same to him. Bloomin hipocrites! -- Chuck Kandler #70 K&S Racing http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! They'll call you names And spit in your face, But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

It converts to $35.00 Canadian and I'm ordering it today. I've got hundreds of dollars of gaming software sitting on the shelf, and none of it has given me as much as I've already recieved from gpl. Eight months after getting it I'm still seriously interested. Money well spent. [email hidden] (Tony StewartNo20) wrote in <[email hidden]>: >man that thing is too expensive here 24 us dollars >THATS CONSIDERD AS A RIP-OFF > -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.

My order's in. David's gonna be rich overnight...8^) Can't wait to take on the AI gang in Toronto....(huge grin!) J. P. Hovercraft ---------------- Andre Warringa wrote: > Just saw a new demo by coincidence at www.theuspits.com. > You can buy the converter here: http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/ > Price for the converter is 15 UK pound. > My order is allready underway :) > > Andre

- Noonan never deceived us like EA and other publishers have many times - I see it as a way to say a big THANK YOU to Noonan for all the great work he did for GPL - there's a demo for the converter, there's no demo (yet) for F1 2000 - I really get tired of this warez talk Andre On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:32:36 +0000, Graeme Nash <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >>You really don't get it, do you? > >Actually I think the guy has a point, after all everyone here is >rationalising their downloading of F12K because they "wanted to try it >before buying". > >In principle there's no difference between downloading a warez version >of F12K and a warez version of the converter, provided they buy it at a >later date or delete all the converted tracks. > >Nobody who has downloaded the warez version of F12K can argue with >that...

speaking of the demo. Is it any different from the demo that we had? N2,N3 to GPL converter demo? Andre Warringa wrote in message ...

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>- Noonan never deceived us like EA and other publishers have many >times >- I see it as a way to say a big THANK YOU to Noonan for all the great >work he did for GPL >- there's a demo for the converter, there's no demo (yet) for F1 2000 >- I really get tired of this warez talk > >Andre > >On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 18:32:36 +0000, Graeme Nash ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >> >>>You really don't get it, do you? >> >>Actually I think the guy has a point, after all everyone here is >>rationalising their downloading of F12K because they "wanted to try it >>before buying". >> >>In principle there's no difference between downloading a warez version >>of F12K and a warez version of the converter, provided they buy it at a >>later date or delete all the converted tracks. >> >>Nobody who has downloaded the warez version of F12K can argue with >>that... >

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> >>Not true at all. I've said this many times, many places, to many >>people. I live just outside Washington, DC. Maybe that's what >>fuels the rage, I'm wallowing in a sea of filthy liberals. >> >>Don McCorkle >>Enough is enough >>Vote Libertarian > > Am I the only one that finds this fuck's signature ironic? > It's >obvious, Mr. McCorkle, that you don't know the first fucking thing >about the Libertarian party platform.

It's a real party? I thought it was a made-up parody! -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

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>On the following date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:49:12 GMT, said person(s) >Chuck Kandler <[email hidden]> stated: > >>Yep. It's wrong for him to kill. But it's not wrong for the state >>to do the same to him. Bloomin hipocrites! > >Yeah.. sure.. and if it was YOUR son, daughter, or wife this >"mentally-ill" person killed?

<snip> And how the hell do you know that that hasn't happened to any of us? -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

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> >"Rikanthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> Surely they're not going to kill someone for being a liberal? Even in > >> America? > >> >>>>>>>> > >> NO! > >> Being a liberal is punishment enough! > > Would that it were. There is no punishment enough. I do feel sorry for them > occasionally, going through life crying and sniveling over every group lacking > the balls to stand up and live. Then I think about it rationally and wish we > could just execute them and remove thier weakness from the gene pool forever. > > Don McCorkle > Vote Libertarian

Don, you poor ignorant bastard. You don't seem to realize that you are not a libertarian at all, but rather a died in the wool Neo-Nazi. Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************

On the following date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:24:21 +0100, said person(s) Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]> stated: >It's a fact that the US justice system is based on revenge and that >judges have to act like politicians. So it's not a surprise that >the mob is influencing rulings quite dramatically. Muhahahahha ROFL.. You have been watching too much Donnie Brasco > >BTW, the bible also says: Thou shall NOT kill. NOT kill what? The Bible is full of "Holy" wars/killings You ever step on a ant? Ever eat beef? Thou shall not kill what? >But being selective which part of the bible is actually worth >considering is quite common with a certain group of believers. > Nope, If your going to go with it, go with the whole thing. First part of the bible says not to eat meat.. then later it's ok. ? First part of the bible says not to kill then later God tells the people to attack and destroy the non-believers. So you tell ME what to do?? - James "Gunslinger" Wohlever [email hidden] Techware Computer Services http://techware.gtinsider.com Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to: [email hidden]

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> > >"Rikanthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> Surely they're not going to kill someone for being a liberal? Even in > >> America? > >> >>>>>>>> > >> NO! > >> Being a liberal is punishment enough! > > Would that it were. There is no punishment enough. I do feel sorry for them > occasionally, going through life crying and sniveling over every group lacking > the balls to stand up and live. Then I think about it rationally and wish we > could just execute them and remove thier weakness from the gene pool forever. > > Don McCorkle > Vote Libertarian

Hey, admit it. You didn't write that yourself, you just copied it from this old book titled "Mein Kampf", right? Libertarian, right, then I'm a Marxist. -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

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> > On the following date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 12:24:21 +0100, said person(s) > Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]> stated: > > >It's a fact that the US justice system is based on revenge and that > >judges have to act like politicians. So it's not a surprise that > >the mob is influencing rulings quite dramatically. > > Muhahahahha ROFL.. > You have been watching too much Donnie Brasco

He must be a "really brainless liberal", right? Sorry, don't know the guy.

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> > > > >BTW, the bible also says: Thou shall NOT kill. > > NOT kill what? > The Bible is full of "Holy" wars/killings > You ever step on a ant? > Ever eat beef? > Thou shall not kill what?

Hmm, yeah, why am I not surprised that criminals, while still considered human (do you?), are compared with ants and, well, cows by you.

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> > >But being selective which part of the bible is actually worth > >considering is quite common with a certain group of believers. > > > > Nope, If your going to go with it, go with the whole thing. > First part of the bible says not to eat meat.. then later it's ok. ?

Well, that's what I was trying to say. YOU pick the parts that suit your image of a good justice system and ignore the parts, the more civilized parts, that don't fit as well. I'm sure you know how many "criminals" were executed, just to be cleared of all charges a little later? Damn, sorry guy, we really thought we had the right one! > > First part of the bible says not to kill then later God tells the > people to attack and destroy the non-believers. > So you tell ME what to do?? Where did I try to tell you what to do? I really couldn't care less what you do, I just responded to a post of yours, expressing your point of view. So did I. -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

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>>You can now convert Watkins Glen from N3. I think that wasn't included >>in the previous demo we had. > >Yes it was... maybe AI has improved in the new demo on the ovals? >Allthough the converter site mentions that the demo AI is not as good >as in the full version... >(I'm getting these RC2000 demo deja vu's :)

Hmm, I'm pretty sure that in the previous version you could only convert Watkins Glen from N2, not N3. I didn't try the demo ovals, IMS from the full converter is enough for me. :) -- Greger

In article <8bepue$rmk$[email hidden]>, "David Karr" <[email hidden]> writes: >Don, if this were a physical and not a virtual space, you wouldn't have the >inhumanity to say that, let alone do it. Nashville, TN is not so far way, >so perhaps my supposition can be put to the test? > >--David Karr >Nashville, TN (<--my city; where's yours?) Not true at all. I've said this many times, many places, to many people. I live just outside Washington, DC. Maybe that's what fuels the rage, I'm wallowing in a sea of filthy liberals. Don McCorkle Enough is enough Vote Libertarian

> He's done more for the GPL fraternity since the > sim's release than Papyrus have. I suspect Papy are busy keeping their bosses happy... you know, bottom line stuff. They probably had to put up a fight to get time allocated to 1.2, which may explain why it took so long. I'm sure they'd love to do more work on GPL or something similar if they had the funding. Maybe they are, who knows... we can but hope! Andrew McP

On the following date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:17:11 -0600, said person(s) "David Karr" <[email hidden]> stated: >Well, on a personal level, I'd probably want to rip his or her lungs out. >But I'd hope I'd be mature enough to make the distinction between my >individual wish, desire, lust for vengeance, and the collective goal >citizens express when forming a state, or professing a spiritual belief. That would ALL go out the window. There would be one thing on your mind until the day you died. Vengeance and closure. Until he/she/it was off this earth you would get neither. Why is it the crooks/thiefs/murders of the world are always the "victim"? "I wasn't allowed to have a BB Gun on my 4th birthday so I mutilated 32 gay boys.. waaaaaa" > >It wouldn't be easy, not at all--but in doing it, I'd be setting myself off, >and setting my community and state off, from the moral values of the person >who did the killing. I think that's worth doing. Yep, it's that kind of thinking that makes these swine happy to do what they do because they know they will get support from people or that society won't do anything. I work in law enforcement and arrest people everyday and I have heard it all. "Why did you steal that coat bud?" -- sniff sniff, because I'm poor and couldn't afford one "Oh, I see, that's why you needed to steal a $300 leather coat right?" >"Eye for an eye" leaves us all blind in the end. (apologies to Ghandi) Eye for an Eye and Tooth for a Tooth comes from the Bible. I could care less what Ghandi had to say about it. - James "Gunslinger" Wohlever [email hidden] Techware Computer Services http://techware.gtinsider.com Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to: [email hidden]

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>"Rikanthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Surely they're not going to kill someone for being a liberal? Even in >> America? >> >>>>>>>> >> NO! >> Being a liberal is punishment enough!

Would that it were. There is no punishment enough. I do feel sorry for them occasionally, going through life crying and sniveling over every group lacking the balls to stand up and live. Then I think about it rationally and wish we could just execute them and remove thier weakness from the gene pool forever. Don McCorkle Vote Libertarian

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>Andre Warringa wrote in message ... > >>- there's a demo for the converter, there's no demo (yet) for F1 2000 >>- I really get tired of this warez talk >> >>Andre > > speaking of the demo. Is it any different from the demo that we had? >N2,N3 to GPL converter demo?

You can now convert Watkins Glen from N3. I think that wasn't included in the previous demo we had. -- Greger [email hidden]

Yes it was... maybe AI has improved in the new demo on the ovals? Allthough the converter site mentions that the demo AI is not as good as in the full version... (I'm getting these RC2000 demo deja vu's :) Andre Andre On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:22:46 GMT, [email hidden] (Greger Huttu) wrote: >You can now convert Watkins Glen from N3. I think that wasn't included >in the previous demo we had.

>> speaking of the demo. Is it any different from the demo that we had? >>N2,N3 to GPL converter demo? > >You can now convert Watkins Glen from N3. I think that wasn't included >in the previous demo we had. I'll have to grab the demo then. btw: I have ICR1 with Indy all set to convert. So, if someone is interested, I'm willing to deal! ;-)

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> >>"Rikanthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:[email hidden]... >>> Surely they're not going to kill someone for being a liberal? Even in >>> America? >>> >>>>>>>> >>> NO! >>> Being a liberal is punishment enough! > >Would that it were. There is no punishment enough. I do feel sorry for

them >occasionally, going through life crying and sniveling over every grouplacking >the balls to stand up and live. Then I think about it rationally and wishwe >could just execute them and remove thier weakness from the gene poolforever. The final solution...ehh Mr. McCorkie ??? Steve @ RXspeed7 racing @ http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/7177

>Would that it were. There is no punishment enough. I do feel sorry for them >occasionally, going through life crying and sniveling over every group lacking >the balls to stand up and live. Then I think about it rationally and wish we >could just execute them and remove thier weakness from the gene pool forever. Hitler? I didn't know you were a fan of sim racing. -Tim

Why bother with the ICR1 Indy when a much more detailed Indy now exits with N3??? dave henrie Mike Barlow wrote:

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> > >> speaking of the demo. Is it any different from the demo that we had? > >>N2,N3 to GPL converter demo? > > > >You can now convert Watkins Glen from N3. I think that wasn't included > >in the previous demo we had. > > I'll have to grab the demo then. btw: I have ICR1 with Indy all set > to convert. So, if someone is interested, I'm willing to deal! ;-)

Then you'd better make sure you are nowhere near Mr. Surtees and his White Punting Device. dave henrie Support wrote:

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> > My order's in. David's gonna be rich overnight...8^) Can't wait to take > on the AI gang in Toronto....(huge grin!) > > J. P. Hovercraft > > ---------------- > > Andre Warringa wrote: > > > Just saw a new demo by coincidence at www.theuspits.com. > > You can buy the converter here: http://www.sim-garage.co.uk/ > > Price for the converter is 15 UK pound. > > My order is allready underway :) > > > > Andre

Don, if this were a physical and not a virtual space, you wouldn't have the inhumanity to say that, let alone do it. Nashville, TN is not so far way, so perhaps my supposition can be put to the test? --David Karr Nashville, TN (<--my city; where's yours?) "Woodie 83" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Would that it were. There is no punishment enough. I do feel sorry forthem > occasionally, going through life crying and sniveling over every grouplacking > the balls to stand up and live. Then I think about it rationally and wishwe > could just execute them and remove thier weakness from the gene poolforever. > > > Don McCorkle > Vote Libertarian >

Yes, WAY off topic, but I have to respond . . . --------- Well, on a personal level, I'd probably want to rip his or her lungs out. But I'd hope I'd be mature enough to make the distinction between my individual wish, desire, lust for vengeance, and the collective goal citizens express when forming a state, or professing a spiritual belief. It wouldn't be easy, not at all--but in doing it, I'd be setting myself off, and setting my community and state off, from the moral values of the person who did the killing. I think that's worth doing. --DK "Eye for an eye" leaves us all blind in the end. (apologies to Ghandi) "James Wohlever" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Yeah.. sure.. and if it was YOUR son, daughter, or wife this > "mentally-ill" person killed? > > Eye for an eye bubba

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> > On the following date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:49:12 GMT, said person(s) > Chuck Kandler <[email hidden]> stated: > > >Yep. It's wrong for him to kill. But it's not wrong for the state to > >do the same to him. Bloomin hipocrites! > > Yeah.. sure.. and if it was YOUR son, daughter, or wife this > "mentally-ill" person killed? > > Eye for an eye bubba

It's a fact that the US justice system is based on revenge and that judges have to act like politicians. So it's not a surprise that the mob is influencing rulings quite dramatically. BTW, the bible also says: Thou shall NOT kill. But being selective which part of the bible is actually worth considering is quite common with a certain group of believers. l8er ronny -- "You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!" "Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.

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> Why bother with the ICR1 Indy when a much more detailed Indy now exits >with N3??? >dave henrie > >Mike Barlow wrote: >> >> >> speaking of the demo. Is it any different from the demo that we

had? >> >>N2,N3 to GPL converter demo? >> > >> >You can now convert Watkins Glen from N3. I think that wasn't included >> >in the previous demo we had. >> >> I'll have to grab the demo then. btw: I have ICR1 with Indy allset >> to convert. So, if someone is interested, I'm willing to deal! ;-)

(Begging the group's indulgence, one last time) James, I'm not sure you read my post very well--for I did say that my *personal* wish would likely be centered on vengeance. But I made a distinction between that personal reaction, and the values towards all human life that I would hope my state would embody. People in other advanced democracies have been able to do this. Indeed, I don't see the victims in non-death penalty states up in arms over their lack of "closure." And mind, you, "closure" ( a term that is tossed around far too uncritically, IMO) itself is an open term. Many relatives of victims of crimes like murder have achieved "closure" in ways other than seeing or knowing that the perpetrator has in turn been fried, or poisoned. But I don't think I'm going to change any minds here; and I suspect that the group may be getting impatient with this off-topic, though crazily important, subject. I'm dropping it now. There's closure for you. sighs, --DK PS a few last comments interspersed below. "James Wohlever" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > That would ALL go out the window. > There would be one thing on your mind until the day you died. > Vengeance and closure. > Until he/she/it was off this earth you would get neither.it?

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> Why is it the crooks/thiefs/murders of the world are always the > "victim"? > "I wasn't allowed to have a BB Gun on my 4th birthday so I mutilated > 32 gay boys.. waaaaaa" > > > > > >It wouldn't be easy, not at all--but in doing it, I'd be setting myself

off, > >and setting my community and state off, from the moral values of theperson > >who did the killing. I think that's worth doing. > > > Yep, it's that kind of thinking that makes these swine happy to do > what they do because they know they will get support from people or > that society won't do anything. Won't do anything?! Um, I think you're confusing an argument against the death penalty with an argument against any sort of punishment at all. That simply won't fly. (See below) (sighs)

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> I work in law enforcement and arrest people everyday and I have heard > it all. > "Why did you steal that coat bud?" > > -- sniff sniff, because I'm poor and couldn't afford one > > "Oh, I see, that's why you needed to steal a $300 leather coat right?"

So they're arrested, tried, sentenced. Why do you swoosh my argument against the death-penalty into excuse making for perpetrators? I'm not saying "let'em go--they're the real victims." I think you must know this, but as a rhetorical move it's profoundly unfair towards my argument. > > >"Eye for an eye" leaves us all blind in the end. (apologies to Ghandi) > > > Eye for an Eye and Tooth for a Tooth comes from the Bible. > I could care less what Ghandi had to say about it. There are other lessons in the Bible too. --DK

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> - James "Gunslinger" Wohlever > [email hidden] > > Techware Computer Services > http://techware.gtinsider.com > > Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to: > [email hidden]

James Wohlever <[email hidden]> writes: > Eye for an Eye and Tooth for a Tooth comes from the Bible. I'm an atheist, but I always thought that was spelled "If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also" -- [asbjxrn] [lLd25z*%ds1-100/sLlSdI%ds2-O/sSl1l2*PlL0<l]sl 21172310731916131628237117 3237142523312SSSLllxq

Um, so you would sign on to a program to execute liberals?? That doesn't sound Libertarian at all. --DK "Woodie 83" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <8bepue$rmk$[email hidden]>, > "David Karr" <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Don, if this were a physical and not a virtual space, you wouldn't havethe > >inhumanity to say that, let alone do it. Nashville, TN is not so farway, > >so perhaps my supposition can be put to the test? > > > >--David Karr Don McCorkle: "Then I think about it rationally and wish we could just execute them and remove thier weakness from the gene pool forever."

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> >Nashville, TN (<--my city; where's yours?) > > Not true at all. I've said this many times, many places, to many people. > I live just outside Washington, DC. Maybe that's what fuels the rage, I'm > wallowing in a sea of filthy liberals. > > Don McCorkle > Enough is enough > Vote Libertarian >

Yes, but James is in the enforcement business. Perhaps Los Angeles? --DK "Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> James Wohlever <[email hidden]> writes: > > > Eye for an Eye and Tooth for a Tooth comes from the Bible. > > I'm an atheist, but I always thought that was spelled "If someone > strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also" > -- > [asbjxrn] [lLd25z*%ds1-100/sLlSdI%ds2-O/sSl1l2*PlL0<l]sl > 21172310731916131628237117 3237142523312SSSLllxq

Don wrote: >>Not true at all. I've said this many times, many places, to many people. > > I live just outside Washington, DC. Maybe that's what fuels the rage,I'm > > wallowing in a sea of filthy liberals. I mean, if one of the central tenets of modern libertarianism is an advocacy of the free market (of ideas, of business, of society), then a mass execution of us wussy liberals and socialists would seem to be rather a heavy interference in that market. But I supoose one shouldn't expect consistency in a politics of rage. --DK "David Karr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8bfr27$3ja$[email hidden]...

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> Um, so you would sign on to a program to execute liberals?? That doesn't > sound Libertarian at all. > > --DK > > > "Woodie 83" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <8bepue$rmk$[email hidden]>, > > "David Karr" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >Don, if this were a physical and not a virtual space, you wouldn't have > the > > >inhumanity to say that, let alone do it. Nashville, TN is not so far > way, > > >so perhaps my supposition can be put to the test? > > > > > >--David Karr > > Don McCorkle: > "Then I think about it rationally and wish we > could just execute them and remove thier weakness from the gene pool > forever." > > > > > >Nashville, TN (<--my city; where's yours?) > > > > Not true at all. I've said this many times, many places, to many

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>>"Eye for an eye" leaves us all blind in the end. (apologies to Ghandi) > > >Eye for an Eye and Tooth for a Tooth comes from the Bible. >I could care less what Ghandi had to say about it. OK. It's logical to expect you to be perfectly ignorant. But how about what Jesus said about "eye for an eye?" -Tim

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>Not true at all. I've said this many times, many places, to many people. >I live just outside Washington, DC. Maybe that's what fuels the rage, I'm >wallowing in a sea of filthy liberals. > >Don McCorkle >Enough is enough >Vote Libertarian

Am I the only one that finds this fuck's signature ironic? It's obvious, Mr. McCorkle, that you don't know the first fucking thing about the Libertarian party platform. -Tim

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> > On the following date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 19:49:12 GMT, said person(s) > Chuck Kandler <[email hidden]> stated: > > >Yep. It's wrong for him to kill. But it's not wrong for the state to > >do the same to him. Bloomin hipocrites! > > Yeah.. sure.. and if it was YOUR son, daughter, or wife this > "mentally-ill" person killed? >

And would such actions bring my son/daughter/wife back to life? No???? So what did we accomplish? Except to hurt ANOTHER family out there. We need less of this stuff, not more. -- Chuck Kandler #70 K&S Racing http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! They'll call you names And spit in your face, But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

James Wohlever wrote: > Yep, it's that kind of thinking that makes these swine happy to do > what they do because they know they will get support from people or > that society won't do anything. > > I work in law enforcement and arrest people everyday and I have heard > it all. If you work in law enforcement, then I'm sure you'll realize that the people who do such acts aren't even concerned about laws. These "get tough" laws impress the hell out of the voting populace who gets nervous if their seat belt isn't buckled, but the common slimeball could care less. The fact that society is such hypocrites as to kill others for killing makes them even less likely to hold the laws in any high regard. Nonetheless, "law abiding" society should show itself to be morally superior to the lowest common denominator, not equal with him. When you execute HIM, YOU'VE just killed someone's father/husband/son/brother. Should his family look for revenge on the society that just murdered HIM? -- Chuck Kandler #70 K&S Racing http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! They'll call you names And spit in your face, But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

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And love your neighbor as yourself. You are doing well, Asbjorn. -- Chuck Kandler #70 K&S Racing http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! They'll call you names And spit in your face, But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

Ronald Stoehr wrote: > Hey, admit it. You didn't write that yourself, you just copied it from > this old book titled "Mein Kampf", right? > > Libertarian, right, then I'm a Marxist. > ROTFLMAO!!!! Please, stop. My sides hurt! -- Chuck Kandler #70 K&S Racing http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195 Competitor in the TopGear MGPRS2 league at: http://topgear.dhs.org/ Come on & join the fun! They'll call you names And spit in your face, But legends never die. --Gene Simmons

The Enigmatic One <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:k8YC4.425$[email hidden]... > > >> Am I the only one that finds this f*^%'s signature ironic? > >> It's > >>obvious, Mr. McCorkle, that you don't know the first f&^%$#* thing > >>about the Libertarian party platform. Hey "Enigmatic One"... Is that the way they talk at the University of Oklahoma now? Fer shame, fer shame! Tsk, tsk, tsk.... Pops...

In article <8bfr27$3ja$[email hidden]>, "David Karr" <[email hidden]> writes: > >Um, so you would sign on to a program to execute liberals?? That doesn't >sound Libertarian at all. >Of course not. "Sometimes I wish we could" implies that I know for some reason it can't be done, that reason being that it would be wrong. I thought it obvious that I was expressing a pure fantasy notion, but evidently it was not very clear at all. Apologies to anyone who took this to be a serious proposal. I am enraged by those who think it's okay to use the force of government to take my hard-earned money and use it for what they perceive to be good. Don McCorkle Vote Libertarian

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You could take this discussion somewhere appropriate, like e-mail perhaps ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting are the only true sports...all others are games." --Ernest Hemingway--

>> Am I the only one that finds this fuck's signature ironic? >> It's >>obvious, Mr. McCorkle, that you don't know the first fucking thing >>about the Libertarian party platform. > >It's a real party? I thought it was a made-up parody! Real, though increasingly it is embracing these far-right facists in an effort to gain more voters. It tends to be for not a war on poverty, but a war on the poor. -Tim

> I am enraged by those who think it's okay to use the force of government to >take my hard-earned money and use it for what they perceive to be good. I think I'd be enraged at the government spending _any_ money on you. -Tim

>>>>> "Andre" == Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> writes: Andre> - Noonan never deceived us like EA and other publishers Andre> have many times - I see it as a way to say a big THANK YOU So they cheated you, you cheat them. That's really a nice attitude... -peter

Clean up your language sonny...you are a disappointment to your mommy. The Enigmatic One <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1SMC4.416$[email hidden]... > > >Not true at all. I've said this many times, many places, to many people. > >I live just outside Washington, DC. Maybe that's what fuels the rage,I'm

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> >wallowing in a sea of filthy liberals. > > > >Don McCorkle > >Enough is enough > >Vote Libertarian > > Am I the only one that finds this fuck's signature ironic? It's > obvious, Mr. McCorkle, that you don't know the first fucking thing about

the > Libertarian party platform. > > > -Tim >

>>>>> "Leela" == Leela <[email hidden]> writes: Leela> So they cheated you, you cheat them. That's really a nice Leela> attitude... Enough

On 23 Mar 2000 02:54:00 GMT, [email hidden] (Tony StewartNo20) wrote: >man that thing is too expensive here 24 us dollars >THATS CONSIDERD AS A RIP-OFF He can hardly help it if the dollar is not as strong as the pound just now :-) Anyway, it's not a bad price for that many tracks and extending GPL so much. Like any product, you pays yer money... Cheers! John

woohoo! Greger Huttu did it again: 7:49:50 at the Ring, what an amazing time. BIG CONGRATS:))) and still the question - this man would be fast in real racers too, I'm sure - no one here to give him a chance?. Wolfgang Woeger Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Greger Huttu did it again! 7:49:50 at the Ring, what an amazing time BIG CONGRATS to the Nr.1:)) and still one question - this IS the best (GPL) Sim racer, I am sure he would be fast in real racers too, no one here to give him a little test drive?? regards Wolfgang Woeger Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

I agree Wolfie, let Mclaren replace Coulthard by Greger... btw, have you done ur own race day whe you won through a contest ? Eric [email hidden] wrote:

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> Greger Huttu did it again! > > 7:49:50 at the Ring, what an amazing time > > BIG CONGRATS to the Nr.1:)) > > and still one question - this IS the best (GPL) Sim racer, I am sure he > would be fast in real racers too, no one here to give him a little test > drive?? > > regards > > Wolfgang Woeger > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

In article <[email hidden]>, Eric Cote <[email hidden]> wrote: > I agree Wolfie, let Mclaren replace Coulthard by Greger... > > btw, have you done ur own race day whe you won through a contest ? > > Eric hi Eric no - it didnt happen, I got 1500 DM, and a race weekend as visitor at the Salzburgring for 2 people, as a team guest. That was great, maybe better than the drive as I have always problems to bring my 99kg in a FF. :) cya Wolfgang

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> [email hidden] wrote: > > > Greger Huttu did it again! > > > > 7:49:50 at the Ring, what an amazing time > > > > BIG CONGRATS to the Nr.1:)) > > > > and still one question - this IS the best (GPL) Sim racer, I am

sure he > > would be fast in real racers too, no one here to give him a littletest

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Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 00:29:27 +0100, "Dave Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Eric Cote wrote in message <[email hidden]>... >>I agree Wolfie, let Mclaren replace Coulthard by Greger... >> >>btw, have you done ur own race day whe you won through a contest ? > >GREGER YOU DA BAD MAN>>>>YOU DA BAD MAN!!!!! > >SLOW DOWN.....Let us catch up!!! > >Congrats, lap of your life i guess...awesome lap dude, just watched it..:)) >Spot on!!!!!

Thanks for the nice words everyone. It was a great lap, but not the lap of my life just yet. :) The car is still a bit twitchy towards the end of the lap and if I can correct this by changing a few things in the setup I'm sure I can do a faster lap. -- Greger

GREGER YOU DA BAD MAN>>>>YOU DA BAD MAN!!!!! SLOW DOWN.....Let us catch up!!! Congrats, lap of your life i guess...awesome lap dude, just watched it..:)) Spot on!!!!! Tally ho Dave Powell Eric Cote wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

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>I agree Wolfie, let Mclaren replace Coulthard by Greger... > >btw, have you done ur own race day whe you won through a contest ? > >Eric > >[email hidden] wrote: > >> Greger Huttu did it again! >> >> 7:49:50 at the Ring, what an amazing time >> >> BIG CONGRATS to the Nr.1:)) >> >> and still one question - this IS the best (GPL) Sim racer, I am sure he >> would be fast in real racers too, no one here to give him a little test >> drive?? >> >> regards >> >> Wolfgang Woeger >> >> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >> Before you buy. >

<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8cft7r$a1b$[email hidden]...

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> > > woohoo! > Greger Huttu did it again: > 7:49:50 at the Ring, what an amazing time. > > BIG CONGRATS:))) > > and still the question - this man would be fast > in real racers too, I'm sure - no one here to > give him a chance?. > > Wolfgang Woeger >

One of the great thing about sims is that damn near anyone can buy a ride. That's one of the reasons that people who drive both real cars and sims say that the online competition is far tougher. Congrats to Huttu. His efforts are just as notable as those of any "real" driver. In some ways even more so. The depth of the field is far greater.

Amazing.... Greger Huttu wrote:

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> > On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 00:29:27 +0100, "Dave Powell" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Eric Cote wrote in message <[email hidden]>... > >>I agree Wolfie, let Mclaren replace Coulthard by Greger... > >> > >>btw, have you done ur own race day whe you won through a contest ? > > > >GREGER YOU DA BAD MAN>>>>YOU DA BAD MAN!!!!! > > > >SLOW DOWN.....Let us catch up!!! > > > >Congrats, lap of your life i guess...awesome lap dude, just watched it..:)) > >Spot on!!!!! > > Thanks for the nice words everyone. It was a great lap, but not the > lap of my life just yet. :) > > The car is still a bit twitchy towards the end of the lap and if I can > correct this by changing a few things in the setup I'm sure I can do a > faster lap. > > -- Greger

Who did u trade the FF-Weekend with then? I offered u the copy of GPL and the wheel I won in that contest.......remember? :)) Wasnt enough? :)) hehe cya Maaki -- ________________________________ Check out my home once in a while: http://www.maaki.de.vu ........still a lot of work to be done ________________________________ <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 8cili7$bg9$[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, > Eric Cote <[email hidden]> wrote: > > I agree Wolfie, let Mclaren replace Coulthard by Greger... > > > > btw, have you done ur own race day whe you won through a contest ? > > > > Eric > > hi Eric > > no - it didnt happen, I got 1500 DM, and a race weekend as visitor at > the Salzburgring for 2 people, as a team guest. > That was great, maybe better than the drive as I have always problems > to bring my 99kg in a FF. > :) > cya > Wolfgang > > > > [email hidden] wrote: > > > > > Greger Huttu did it again! > > > > > > 7:49:50 at the Ring, what an amazing time > > > > > > BIG CONGRATS to the Nr.1:)) > > > > > > and still one question - this IS the best (GPL) Sim racer, I am > sure he > > > would be fast in real racers too, no one here to give him a little > test > > > drive?? > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Wolfgang Woeger > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > Before you buy. > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

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