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CPU for N2

Brooke Horto

CPU for N2

by Brooke Horto » Wed, 10 Sep 1997 04:00:00

I am planning on upgrading my computer's CPU and would appreciate some
advice on which is the fit for N2.  I would like to stay in the $200 price
range.  Is there any major drawbacks to the Cyrix 200mmx in playing N2? Or
should I go with an Intel 166mmx (about the same price range).

Thanks in advance
Hayden

Mike

CPU for N2

by Mike » Thu, 11 Sep 1997 04:00:00




>>I am planning on upgrading my computer's CPU and would appreciate some
>>advice on which is the fit for N2.  I would like to stay in the $200 price
>>range.  Is there any major drawbacks to the Cyrix 200mmx in playing N2? Or
>>should I go with an Intel 166mmx (about the same price range).

>If $235 dollars is not too far to jump then I'd get an Intel 200MMX.
>The AMD K6 200MX is going for about $200 now. It's sounds like
>a pretty good processor but I'd do a little more research before I got
>one over the Intel.  As far as Cyrix goes... you get what you pay for.
>You can keep up on the latest prices at:
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Forget the Intel MMX and go with the K6 AMD. I put these in new builds
all day long, and they smoke the Intel chips. As long as your board
will support MMX and is configurable, this is the hot chip right now.

Heck I've even clocked them at 233 mhz, and they run great. Do your
self a favor though and get a GOOD ball bearing fan, that is spring
loaded to attach to the ZIFF socket. The biggest occurance of failure
I've seen is when the fan falls off your chip!

Mike
***lane, Tucson AZ
Lifes too short,....don't fold your underwear!

Mike Radl

CPU for N2

by Mike Radl » Thu, 11 Sep 1997 04:00:00


>I am planning on upgrading my computer's CPU and would appreciate some
>advice on which is the fit for N2.  I would like to stay in the $200 price
>range.  Is there any major drawbacks to the Cyrix 200mmx in playing N2? Or
>should I go with an Intel 166mmx (about the same price range).

If $235 dollars is not too far to jump then I'd get an Intel 200MMX.
The AMD K6 200MX is going for about $200 now. It's sounds like
a pretty good processor but I'd do a little more research before I got
one over the Intel.  As far as Cyrix goes... you get what you pay for.
You can keep up on the latest prices at:
http://www.pricewatch.com/catdocs/catlistf.htm

If you can wait 2-3 months, the Intel 200MMX will probably be down
in your price range. I'm planning on waiting for the 233MMX to come
down so I can complete my NROS machine.

BTW, Your motherboard must be able to support the MMX in order
to use one of the above units.

Mike Radler

Hawaii Ace League http://www.dithots.org/hal

SBeshe

CPU for N2

by SBeshe » Thu, 11 Sep 1997 04:00:00

N2 is a pentium sniffer.  You will get better performance with

an Intel,  unless of course you have a rendition card.

Goy Larse

CPU for N2

by Goy Larse » Thu, 11 Sep 1997 04:00:00


> Forget the Intel MMX and go with the K6 AMD. I put these in new builds
> all day long, and they smoke the Intel chips. As long as your board
> will support MMX and is configurable, this is the hot chip right now.

> Heck I've even clocked them at 233 mhz, and they run great. Do your
> self a favor though and get a GOOD ball bearing fan, that is spring
> loaded to attach to the ZIFF socket. The biggest occurance of failure
> I've seen is when the fan falls off your chip!

Have to disagree slightly with you there Mikey. Yes it is fast, GP2 for
one flies on a K6, have one myself so I know, and it compares well
against Intel on price, but it seems more and more games start to use
the FPU, and as with the Cyrix, that is not a strong point of the AMD.
Don`t know if N2 uses FPU though, but I`m sure someone else knows :-)

Beers and cheers
Goy
Fairly satisfied K6-233 owner

Gary Lightfoo

CPU for N2

by Gary Lightfoo » Thu, 11 Sep 1997 04:00:00



:-)

Very true. Games like Quake and GP2 will run a little better with the
Intel CPU. If you check out "The Mainboard Guide" web-site you will
see that Intel is better for games due to its superior FPU. However,
if you use your machine for other stuff then the AMD may be the
better bet.

Despite everything I went for the K6-233 as well and I'm pleased with
the improvement over my P60 - well, who wouldn't be! ;o]

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Don Burnett

CPU for N2

by Don Burnett » Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:00:00



Personally, I'd stick with Intel. Depending on what your upgrading from, I
think you'll be pretty happy with the 166 mmx. Or better yet, put a few
more bucks with it and get the 200 mmx. Make sure your motherboard
support's it though.
DonB.

C Hev

CPU for N2

by C Hev » Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:00:00





>> I am planning on upgrading my computer's CPU and would appreciate some
>> advice on which is the fit for N2.  I would like to stay in the $200
>price
>> range.  Is there any major drawbacks to the Cyrix 200mmx in playing N2?
>Or
>> should I go with an Intel 166mmx (about the same price range).

>> Thanks in advance
>> Hayden

>Personally, I'd stick with Intel. Depending on what your upgrading from, I
>think you'll be pretty happy with the 166 mmx. Or better yet, put a few
>more bucks with it and get the 200 mmx. Make sure your motherboard
>support's it though.
>DonB.

My money for that price (agian if your board can run it) is to go with
an AMD K6-200 runs on par and sometimes above a P-Pro 200 plus it has
FULL LICENCED MMX instructions which is another plus.
Price at Pomon, CA (L.A) on 8/30/97 was $199.
Nascar 2 runs like a dream with only a small jitter on Bristol with
EVERYTHING turned on- kill infield and acuople other things and no
prob.

Also AMD has had very little problems running games unlike Cyrix
products of which half the games I buy seem to release patches to run
on it.... final thing if you go cyrix wait 1-2 months untill the
recall is over and they have either been returned or someone else buys
the bad ones (problems with their speed rating at the plant wrong
chips passing at higher speed than possible)

Lannie Schafro

CPU for N2

by Lannie Schafro » Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:00:00


says...

We purchased 3 Magatronic K6-200Mhz systems.  They out performed our
Dell P II225Mhz machines.  They were MUCH faster when doing normal
everyday tasks and etc.  When it came to networking, they edged the
Dell's just slightly.  Since they were $600 cheaper and Magatronic's
support has always been great, we dumped the Dells.  We have 108 AMD
K5-133 chips and 5 K6-200 chips and they all seem to be very solid.  
The K5 & K6 outperform their conterpart Intel chips.

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Eric Adam

CPU for N2

by Eric Adam » Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:00:00

I'm going with the 200 mmx overdrive from Intel.You can download a little
program from thier homepage to see if your system is compatible.
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> >> I am planning on upgrading my computer's CPU and would appreciate some
> >> advice on which is the fit for N2.  I would like to stay in the $200
> >price
> >> range.  Is there any major drawbacks to the Cyrix 200mmx in playing
N2?
> >Or
> >> should I go with an Intel 166mmx (about the same price range).

> >> Thanks in advance
> >> Hayden

> >Personally, I'd stick with Intel. Depending on what your upgrading from,
I
> >think you'll be pretty happy with the 166 mmx. Or better yet, put a few
> >more bucks with it and get the 200 mmx. Make sure your motherboard
> >support's it though.
> >DonB.

> My money for that price (agian if your board can run it) is to go with
> an AMD K6-200 runs on par and sometimes above a P-Pro 200 plus it has
> FULL LICENCED MMX instructions which is another plus.
> Price at Pomon, CA (L.A) on 8/30/97 was $199.
> Nascar 2 runs like a dream with only a small jitter on Bristol with
> EVERYTHING turned on- kill infield and acuople other things and no
> prob.

> Also AMD has had very little problems running games unlike Cyrix
> products of which half the games I buy seem to release patches to run
> on it.... final thing if you go cyrix wait 1-2 months untill the
> recall is over and they have either been returned or someone else buys
> the bad ones (problems with their speed rating at the plant wrong
> chips passing at higher speed than possible)

Mike Radl

CPU for N2

by Mike Radl » Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:00:00

Has anybody done Nascar2 frame rate comparisons between the
AMD K6 233MX and the Intel P233MMX (or even the 200s)  ?  I'm
planning to buy one or the other and N2 is the deciding factor. I'm
leaning towards the Intel right now based on the superior 3D
benchmark results that show the Intel P233MX to be the best
socket 7 processor for 3D rendering. The K6 looks great for other
apps but *** is pretty much my machine's job and N2 is the
primary game.

Mike Radler

Member - Hawaii Ace League http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Jay Taylo

CPU for N2

by Jay Taylo » Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:00:00


> Has anybody done Nascar2 frame rate comparisons between the
> AMD K6 233MX and the Intel P233MMX (or even the 200s)  ?  I'm
> planning to buy one or the other and N2 is the deciding factor. I'm
> leaning towards the Intel right now based on the superior 3D
> benchmark results that show the Intel P233MX to be the best
> socket 7 processor for 3D rendering. The K6 looks great for other
> apps but *** is pretty much my machine's job and N2 is the
> primary game.

> Mike Radler

> Member - Hawaii Ace League http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Mike,
I'm using the K6233(just upgraded from the K6 200 got a great deal) and
it runs N2 flawlessly in W95. I'm using the 3D blaster PCI rendition
board and with this combo I can run all detail on, draw all 39 cars, and
keep the frame rate between 27-30 fps. (without using the -4 switch)
Martinsville dips alittle lower but still stays in the 22-27 fps range.
The funny thing is that in DOS it runs slower. I have to use the -4
switch to get the same kind of performance. But since I've got it set up
for the NROS my W95 performance is the main factor. Hope this helps.

Jay Taylor
Windy City Motorsports

Don Burnett

CPU for N2

by Don Burnett » Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:00:00



> Has anybody done Nascar2 frame rate comparisons between the
> AMD K6 233MX and the Intel P233MMX (or even the 200s)  ?  I'm
> planning to buy one or the other and N2 is the deciding factor. I'm
> leaning towards the Intel right now based on the superior 3D
> benchmark results that show the Intel P233MX to be the best
> socket 7 processor for 3D rendering. The K6 looks great for other
> apps but *** is pretty much my machine's job and N2 is the
> primary game.

> Mike Radler

> Member - Hawaii Ace League http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Mike, I can't say I've done comparisons, but I recently purchased the Dell
Xps 233 mmx system, 32mb sdram, 12/24x cd rom drive, 4.3 gb hd, and altec
lansing acs 490 surround sound speakers with 40 watt subwoofer. I also
dropped my Sierra screamin 3d rendition card in it. The system absolutely
rocks. I can run Nascar 2 with all graphics on, very smooth framerate. One
race I set the min framerate for all graphics to 30, and they all stayed
on.(don't remember which track) I also can run N1 with all graphics on. I
have some other graphics intensive games, ie Janes Longbow and Mechwarrior
Mercenaries,(not rendition games) which I can run with all detail on in
640x480. I have had this system about a month now, and have been well
pleased.
Don Burnette
Randy Wils

CPU for N2

by Randy Wils » Sat, 13 Sep 1997 04:00:00

Isn't there something in N2 that is optimizes the steering when
running a true Pentium chip? Has this been rectified with the patches?

Just wondering as I'm thinking of upgrading from my P133 and could use
the chip savings to upgrade the MB slightly.

Randy



>> Forget the Intel MMX and go with the K6 AMD. I put these in new builds
>> all day long, and they smoke the Intel chips. As long as your board
>> will support MMX and is configurable, this is the hot chip right now.

>> Heck I've even clocked them at 233 mhz, and they run great. Do your
>> self a favor though and get a GOOD ball bearing fan, that is spring
>> loaded to attach to the ZIFF socket. The biggest occurance of failure
>> I've seen is when the fan falls off your chip!

>Have to disagree slightly with you there Mikey. Yes it is fast, GP2 for
>one flies on a K6, have one myself so I know, and it compares well
>against Intel on price, but it seems more and more games start to use
>the FPU, and as with the Cyrix, that is not a strong point of the AMD.
>Don`t know if N2 uses FPU though, but I`m sure someone else knows :-)

>Beers and cheers
>Goy
>Fairly satisfied K6-233 owner

Mike Radl

CPU for N2

by Mike Radl » Sat, 13 Sep 1997 04:00:00


>I'm using the K6233(just upgraded from the K6 200 got a great deal) and
>it runs N2 flawlessly in W95. I'm using the 3D blaster PCI rendition
>board and with this combo I can run all detail on, draw all 39 cars, and
>keep the frame rate between 27-30 fps. (without using the -4 switch)
>Martinsville dips alittle lower but still stays in the 22-27 fps range.
>The funny thing is that in DOS it runs slower. I have to use the -4
>switch to get the same kind of performance. But since I've got it set up
>for the NROS my W95 performance is the main factor. Hope this helps.

That's pretty impressive for Marty with out the -4 switch. Thanks for
the info!

Mike Radler

Hawaii Ace League http://www.dithots.org/hal


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